Democratss need to think differently.

I can't understand these people who think it's right to have anyone who wants to come here. America can not be the life boat to the rest of the world. A nation can only take as many in as it can provide for. With over 20 million without a job, or only working part time and 47% of the population making so little, they pay no Federal Taxes, it's not hard for any half way intelligent person to see that this life boat your counting on has way to many holes in it to keep afloat. Soon there will be more people collecting benefits than people paying to finance those benefits. Unless thinking changes, we will be no better than the nations these illegals came from.

 

The democrats simply actually thinking would be an improvement for them.

 

If Democrats get their way they will destroy the nation.

 

Actually they pay a great deal in local, state and federal taxes. As a matter of fact the average illegal paid more each year in income tax than former President Trump paid in the years before he was elected.

 

That a little hard to believe as outside of the IRS and the NY state tax, no one else has seen his taxes. They aren't allowed to make it public.

 

Again.

 

He’s talking about a big business loss Trump had years ago and had to take the capital gains loss over a 10 year period. When you have realized cap gains you pay them every year but if you have a loss, you have to spread the tax deduction over several years depending on the size of the loss which if I remember right was about 1 billion dollars.

 

That's fake news garbage. Every illegal costs American taxpayers about $20K per head. They are a net drain, just like about 60% of the people in the country.

 

Democrats main goals is to turn the united States of America into a larger Venezuela or Cuba.

 

If you are here illegally, then you don't have a valid social security number. And without a valid SSN, you can't work for an employer, or rather, that employer won't be taking federal income tax out of your check. Then that employer will, rightfully, get raided, and all the illegals shipped back to Mexico so they can come across the border a couple days later and do it all over again. Thanks, Brandon...

 

I think some people want that. Whether its because they agree with the old creed 'you have crush the old system before bringing in a new one' or because they just think they'll feel less guilty about existing if they're as miserable as the rest of the world, clearly a good chunk of people that promote this madness understand the simple logic that it dooms us to ruin. There are of course those that think food, medicine and housing can just be printed by the federal reserve... but not that many.

 

You're looking at it from the well-being of The American People, and so it makes no sense.
Look at it from the viewpoint of a coordinated attack on The American People and it makes perfect sense.

Review The Cloward-Piven strategy based on the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

 

Since I spent my first 42 years of life as a Democrat, let me shed some light on the basis of their thinking.
Start out with the Rich must be harassed and made to appear as evil scums sucking our life of this nation. We were taught that from childhood. Government is all they care about. We the people are last on the list. See how Biden torched the deal with Canada over oil. See how he sucked up to Putin and awarded him his pipeline Trump had stopped.

Though individuals must never be rich, they love for the Fed Government to in effect be super duper rich, far beyond Gates dreams or Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk's Dreams.
But they want this super rich nation to also play dumb on climate. To blame man and not nature. They see the sun all day long and it gets no blame. They see clouds in the sky and those get no blame. They see the rapid rise of China's coal plants and those get no blame by Democrats. In the past 25 years I have tried to get Democrats to blame China but no deal. They want to blame only the USA. They do not blame Europe in fact nor even Russia. They blame the USA. And this country is far and away the best on environment issues

 

I was once on a forum that did discuss Cloward-Piven and Saul Alinsky teachings.

 

And they pretend that illegals move the vast taxable sums of money moved by Trump in his 500+ businesses.

 

Democrats run the party on the enormous lie. Tell one so huge, they think it persuades the rest of us.

 

Naturally you do not include a bit of proof.

 

I learned the law on this in my income tax courses, my mortgage lender courses and to a less degree in the Real Estate course. I do not recall if I learned it also in business law courses.
The law guarantees all citizens privacy of the income tax return. Trump should have used it to save his troubles. Trump had no duty to supply his tax returns. And IRS has a duty to protect each citizens returns from others.

Biden had no law or duty to supply his tax returns. He was a fool for doing it. The Feds have disclosure laws on finances and Trump submitted them all as did Biden.

 

I grew up in Los Angeles, and you're not kidding about being no better than there these people are running from.

 

When any party has the gross Income that Trump has, he has tens of thousands of employees and he pays for all of them taxes to the Feds. And he pays state taxes on them. And he is taxed at the Corporate level. Recall the party paying the tax may be a corporation but it is treated separately from the stockholders.

 

Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes. Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States



“The New York Times reported yesterday that President Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016, and nothing at all in 10 of the prior 15 years. Compare that to immigrants.

“Immigrants have to pay the same taxes as U.S. citizens, even if they are undocumented. Failure to do so may lead to deportation.

“Immigrants, both documented and undocumented, paid an estimated $328 billion in state, federal, and local taxes in 2014 alone. And the estimated 4.5 million people with Individual Tax Identification Numbers (ITINs), which are available only to noncitizens, paid $23.6 billion in total taxes in 2015.

“It is outrageous that the average undocumented immigrant in the United States pays more in federal income taxes than the President did in 2016.”

https://news.cornell.edu/media-rela...ted-immigrants-pay-more-taxes-president-trump



America's undocumented immigrants likely pay more in taxes than Donald Trump. According to a report from The Institute on Taxation & Economic Policy (ITEP), they pay a hefty amount of state and local tax, just like other people living in the United States.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...nts-actually-pay-infographic/?sh=22c527aa1de0

 

I was born into a moderate democrat family. I grew up thinking I was one. I was interested in politics at a young age. The democrats moved to the left from that point. I was pro life and pro NRA and believed in winning the Cold War. I liked a lot of the programs democrats talked about. I remember being happy when Nixon resigned and the democrats big wins in 1974. The key to change for me was the radio. I listened to our local station getting ready for school each day and Ronald Reagan, our former governor I thought I didn’t like had a commentary and I listened each day to what he had to say out of curiosity and he kept making sense to me. So in 1976 while following the democrat primary rooting for Scoop Jackson of Washington I followed Reagan and really liked him and was bitterly disappointed that he lost to Ford and went back to Carter. I was angry at Carter for canceling the MX missile and B-1 bomber. I then fluctuated between the parties until 1978 when Howard Jarvis and Prop 13 property taxes and being sure Reagan would run again in 1980 I became a Republican on economic and national defense grounds. I’ve been one ever since. The democrat party moved to the left but I still followed blue dog democrats I liked before I became a Republican. After Clinton’s 2nd term most of them were either purged from the party or themselves moved way left. No one disappointed me more on that issue than Al Gore. I actually liked Clinton from 1995 on other than his scandal and was shocked at Al Gore and how he moved so far to the left in 2000. I clearly preferred Bush that year but I believe that had Gore run as Clinton’s 3rd term and continued his policies instead of distancing himself from him, Gore would have won in a landslide. After he lost the rest of the moderates seemed to be purged and the road to the left accelerated. Like Reagan said, “I didn’t leave the democrat party, the Democratic Party left me.”

 

What kind of a moron or crook loses a billion dollars?

 

Here is what they don't tell you. Most get money back for being under the poverty level. Most consume more in benefits than they pay in.


Do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Their "Fair Share" of Taxes ...
https://immigration.procon.org/questions/do...
At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens. Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax

1. Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits ...
   https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-cost-of-illegal...
   A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border. While federal benefits ...
   
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Really? Fluctuations in the stock market can cause multi billionaires to lose or gain several billion in worth in a single day.