DeSantis tells CPAC to 'put on full armor of God,' says 'shield of faith' will protect them from the

he was a Christian in the same since many republicans are, he was born and raised Christian and used it for political purposes

 

That's true. Hitler had no problem appealing to the church when he needed to.

 

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well were both unconcerned of any tartarus places being real. That’s awesome.
Still not at all sure why anyone would go to college and then reject science for obvious fabrications like talking snakes and borrowed stories but that’s the freedom we have in the US.

 

The worlds oldest game of Telephone I believe it’s called, that’s absolutely accurate. The really disturbing bits that got left in are what concerns me, that’s not a book for children at all.

 

So mankind isn't fallen. There is no need for our retrieval. There is no God or Devil, no heaven or hell or final accountability. There is no good or evil. We have no higher nature. This life is all there is. And death is the end of the road?

That's a pretty old story too: Hope can be too painful to keep alive, and love gone too lonely to survive. So just kill it before it grows. Isn't this also a fabrication...a lamentation, construction, and crutch, to help deal with sorrow, disappointment and uncertainty.

On its face, a talking snake sounds absurd. But perhaps there is more to it. What if the Mother of all mankind was gifted to understand animals. All the animals where I live have their own language. Even the marsh at night sounds like a mighty chorus. Who knows. At any rate, why use that which is easily mocked, and ignore all the more rational parts in scripture. For instance, In Isaiah 53, he tells of the plight of all mankind, the necessity of a Savior, the coming of a Savior, his suffering and ultimate death. Or Jesus Christs sermon on the Mount.

 

Nothing like libeling American Christians and comparing us to Hitler and his methods. Simply stunningly pathetic

 

I often wonder if the OP is Hawaiian...

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Another puerile load of distorted theist pretzel "justifications" of their own FEAR of what will happen to them if they do NOT subjugate themselves to their IMAGINARY "creator" that does NOT exist.

That YOU believe that all of those EVOLUTIONARY attributes above are some "gift" is YOUR "illusion of grandeur" that YOU are so "special" that YOU were "chosen" by your IMAGINARY "creator".

I prefer dealing with REALITY rather than WASTING the time I have in this life "worshiping" your IMAGINARY "creator" that does not give a crap about the BILLIONS of people living in poverty and misery. What benefit has his "charity" and "gifts" provided to them other than to have spend their lives in desperation trying to eke out a living for themselves and their loved ones. While YOU are making yourself feel good by singing praises to your IMAGINARY creator I am volunteering my time at soup kitchens and food banks. So spare me your fallacious piety and condemnation because the smile on the face of a small child or a homeless man is all I need to know that I have no need of your vapid superstitious claptrap in my life.

Have a nice day!

 

Here is something YOU can learn from ATHEISTS like myself and my late wife.

Love is IMMORTAL!

My late wife was born, raised and lived her entire life to the day she died as an Atheist.

And yet in spite of her death her love for me and my daughter lives on within us. It is still with me every single day and it will remain with me and my daughter for the rest of our lives. If I have grandchildren they will be the beneficiaries of her love too because it is immortal. Her friends still feel the influence of her love in their lives because of who she was as a person and how she gave so much of herself to all she knew and cared about.

So no, just because her body is gone from our lives does NOT mean that her LOVE has not survived.

I am an Atheist and I have first hand experience of her love in my life therefore I have no need to delude myself that your IMAGINARY "creator" is going to be a poor substitute for the REALITY that I have of her love in my life.

The SAD part about all of this is that if YOU were to actually understand the GENUINE message of love that is buried under loads of superstitious crap in your own bible you could find it too. Unfortunately it is buried so deeply and so badly distorted with all of the other vacuous drivel it has become nothing more than an empty shell that is used and abused by those who PROFIT from the FEAR of others spending their entire lives LONELY and UNLOVED.

 

If we use logic, it seems likely that eventually her love will probably run out. Either that or possibly eventually be changed so much, as it goes down the line subsequently from person to person, that it is no longer in any recognizable way the same.

So while you may be able to argue her love will be able to live on after her death, it will likely not be immortal. Not in the way that you understand it.

(Of course I believe in the possibility of an afterlife, so I am just trying to point out inconsistencies in your atheist position)

It's not unless you claim to believe in some sort of spiritualism that you can logically rationally justify that her love will actually be immortal.
If we view things entirely materially, then once everyone who knew her dies off, her love will mostly cease continuing to exist.

 

he was not a Atheist which is what the other poster was saying, facts are facts

don't blame Hitler on Atheists, he was born and raise Christian

 

You're literally arguing with someone who doesn't understand the character in your logo, so is making your choice of logo a valid reason to discredit you, personally. LMAO

 

Well, fer sure we know he has favorites in sports. Winners are always thankful to god. Losers don’t relate to the loser’s god so much on account of the shame for not being chosen.

 

I am glad for you, but sorry for your immeasurable loss. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches that families are forever. Husbands and Wives and children can be sealed together for time and all eternity in the Temple, even if they have already passed on, by proxy. Such that in the resurrection, they are reunited in Heavenly Fathers kingdom forever, if they should so choose and accept the ordinance. The gospel is active in the spiritual world as it is here in mortality. While science has no place or way to validate or establish the veracity of this doctrine, or of God or heaven. Neither is science near your and your Wife's pure love for one another. And yet your love is real because you know it. And I believe you without myself knowing, because it comes thru in you fond words. Similarly I know that God is real and that he lives. Your Wife is not dead, dead. Her spirit has returned home from whence we all came. To me it is an absurdity to think that such liveliness of spirit should perish or cease to be, near even to treason. I am glad that your and your Wife love is better than pure gold and the sum total of the worlds treasures.

 

That's pretty much it. We're born, we learn and try and make our way and then it's over.

It's not that there are not some good metaphors in that collection of stories. Metaphors were easily understood by people with no real education as we know it. The reason those stories got traction was it was the first one to have a loophole out of certain death, something to which even roman/greek gods were also fated. In comes a new religion that somehow defeats death, and naturally people wanted in.

 

He said no such thing and for someone actively promoting xtianity your obvious lie about his statement adds hypocrisy to your faith- which I'll wager doesn't make normal xtians happy. No one is comparing todays xtians to Hitler, only noting that we can read and history shows us exactly how he used xtianity as a part of his political nightmare.

 

That's one way of looking at it. As for me, my knowledge of God didn't come from academics or the five senses. I know that God is real, that he is our God, that he is divine and eternal, and that he lives. I know this because he visited me with his spirit, filled my heart with peace, my mind with light, and allowed me a glimpse of heaven. But the key to it all is that I recognized and remembered him and his spirit. And up to this point I knew essentially nothing about religion or God or doctrine.

 

It's disturbing now certain unbelievers are that they understand people of faith. From what I see here in this forum you guys are completely clueless.

 

That makes sense. You're aware this is a faith issue and rather than make crazy claims you recognize what it means to you and how you live better for it. It helps you and that's how you portray it. Nice.

 

If you saw how so many "people of faith" were hypocritical, lying, psuedoscience pushing, self righteous clowns it'd probably make more sense. I was one of those people so I have no problem recognizing those who'd lie all day if it gave them a warm feeling of standing up for an invisible and malevolent friend.

 

"Us"? "American Christians"? Why do you take everything personally? The poster said "many Republicans", which of course is true. There are many good Christians in the GOP, and there are also many who use it as a political tool. What do you expect? They need the evangelical vote. Using religion in politics is an ancient tactic, and in the past the Roman Catholic church took it to the extremes.

 

Some “christians” make it hard to differentiate between the two. What do you expect when you use a religious preference to attack other and push religious law and exemption?

 

We don't expect to be called Nazis.

 

Then conservative evangelicals need to stop moving from group to group subjugate and attack using their chosen religion as a basis. Blacks, women, Muslims, interracial couples, gay people, trans people — all with varying levels of vitriol

They are better than zero of the above groups.

Also kick the actual Nazis and white supremacists out of the Republican Party.

 

Science cannot, hasn't, and never will fathom what you erringly call "evolutionary attributes." Our higher nature is not of the natural world. But because they whisper of the divine, you dismiss and close your eyes to them for threatening your pride and sense of things. In fact, we are all beggars in life... sustained, and our cups filled by the sun, moon, earth, solar system, and stars. We are infants at the breast all of our days.

You say without knowing, that there is no God. But I say in certainty that God lives. And one day you will know it. And if you can remember this conversation, you will look back and wince.