Did Russia want Trump to win?

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  1. Steady Pie

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    Looks like Putin isn't getting value for money.

    Nobody ever gives any direct evidence for any of this. It's always "the CIA said there's damning evidence but it's too precious to release to you lemmings in the public".
     
  2. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't trust him either. Most Americans don't I think the problem is all during the primaries and general election campaign, we got used to him saying one thing one day, the opposite the next and deny saying anything at all on the third. Perhaps quite a lot of us have gotten used to that. Now if Trump says his first 100 days was the best or greatest ever, we just shrugged and move on not giving it any attention.

    People on sites like this do, but not those who aren't political junkies or all that partisan. Perhaps we have become use to politicians lying or exaggerating so much it is the same as a lie. It all goes into one ear and right out the other without much thought given to it or in this case him.

    I heard a Democrat from Florida say the Republicans want to kill your grandmothers in some fight over legislation or a Republican say the Democrats are turning this nation into a godless communist one. A lot of folks just don't pay attention anymore as things politicians say are so outrageous, they must be insane. Either that, we are for believing them.
     
  3. Robert

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    I don't buy that for a half second.
    Tell you why.
    Hillary's loyalists don't care if she was the lady of the evening for Putin. She can do no wrong.

    Comey tells us there is nothing to claims Trump colluded with Russia.
     
  4. Mircea

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    The Russians tried, but were not successful in their repeated attempts to hack the RNC.

    The DNC got caught in a web of lies....to bad for them.

    It must suck knowing Bernie would have taken Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin and beaten Trump.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Comey came out the first time to discuss the E mails, I at first thought he was going to see to it she got arrested.

    I am pleased to note that since GW Bush left, at last the military likes the president again. They are coming out of a dark cloud area.
     
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    As I wrote, the main argument of Russian propaganda is American government is very unprofessional one. Now authority of USA is very low in Russia and any American asserting is perceived as a fake.
     
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    If Putin helped Trump get elected I bet he's having 2nd thoughts now. Frankly, I think hacking elections of other countries is SOP for most countries including the U.S. It's just that the butt hurt Democrat-left is trying to head fake themselves into believing Hillary wasn't the worst candidate the Democrats could have supported. They and the left-media brainwashed themselves into their Hillary, woman-President la la land that alas, was without a real foundation and so was never to be.
     
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    And they are currently working to get Le Pen elected in France
     
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    None of that makes any sense and Comey said no such thing
     
  10. VietVet

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    Comey influenced swing voters - there are some still left. The election was THAT close.

    Where did you come up with THAT? Link, please.
     
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    You guys still on this "Russia lost the election for Hillary" thing?
     
  12. VietVet

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    Comey is Russian?
    No.
    The "Russia" item is collusion with the Trump campaign and is NOT going away until the bottom is reached. Flynn alone STINKS - and he is not alone.
    Turns my stomach that Flynn wore a uniform, then sold his services to foreign governments. LOCK HIM UP.
     
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  13. ArmySoldier

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    So, you still are on this whole Russia hacked the election which is why Hillary lost, thing. That's exactly what I asked.
     
  14. VietVet

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    1) Yeah, it's kind of important.
    2) Comey assisted the Trump campaign - and that is unrelated to Russia, except it was Russia that hacked the DNC and gave the emails to Wikileaks which Comey then said he was investigating.
     
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    Let me guess, you probably also think the Republicans made too big a deal out of Benghazi...

    And yet you're still on this whole "Russia elected Trump" thing.

    Guys quick, get us a definition for "Hypocrite"
     
  16. VietVet

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    Don't resort to name-calling - it debases any argument you have.
    To equate the 2 is nonsensical.
    You believe in coincidences?
    Sessions
    Carter Page
    Kushner
    Manafort
    Prince(DeVoss's brother)
    Roger Stone
    Flynn
    Tillerson
    All those dealings were innocent? They just "forgot" to tell they had them? If they were so innocent, why lie and say they didn't take place?
    You choose to believe a man that there is absolutely no reason to believe - that is your choice, not mine.
     
  17. ArmySoldier

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    I don't need to argue anything. I'm just sitting back and watching your conspiracies lead you to believe Trump's getting impeached.

    Much like Hillary by a landslide
     
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    I know Trump will NOT be impeached. I accept math - the GOP would never vote to impeach - they are like Flynn - who put money above patriotism - the GOP puts party over country.
    I want the truth to get out, and maybe someone like you would go, hey, I didn't know.
    Right now, except for Flynn, who broke laws, there is only a TON of circumstantial evidence, I would like hard data.
    And, Hillary DID win the popular vote by a LOT.
     
  19. ArmySoldier

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    I'm just going to leave this thread and let you continue your conspiracies.

    Hillary won the popular vote? So did the Falcons. They won 49 states in almost every poll. How'd that work out for them? LOL popular vote. An irrelevant topic

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    Hillary's support was just that weak you say?

    Comey ... no collusion

     
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    We will never solve the Democrats hurt feelings.
    We have told them and told them popular vote does not work.
    We even have solid proof. This last time it failed to help them. It is a statement with no meaning.

    Me, I am enjoying my first 100 days with no Hillary as president. I hope she is enjoying being out of office.
     
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    So the revelation that the Hillary camp came up with the Russian excuse 24 hours after the election is now included in the new recently released book, "Shattered."

    Yep, Hillary campaign insiders are now admitting that the Russian tampering story was fabricated as the best excuse that they could come up with for a totally humiliating loss.
     
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    Word on the streets is that she wants to run again... so the question is, "would the DNC still be powerful enough to cheat the party competition again?"
     
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    You just pulled crap out your arse. Americans deal with Russia all the time, being they are no longer the USSR, nor communist. To assume dealing with Russia in the past, or Russian businessmen, is evidence of treason is the irrationality of faux liberals. Of course what is missing is just evidence. But you obviously don't need it. Your faux liberal irrational imagination suffices. Stating conjecture as certainty is dishonesty, period. Hey, the DNC has a place for you. Need job?
     
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  25. VietVet

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    No need to be snarky.
    I did not mention treason - YOU DID.
    I think there are business dealings being arranged that would benefit Putin and his cronies and Trump and his cronies, and so what if they aren't in America's interests? So what if it strengthens Russia? Don't let that intrude on a chance to make some real money.

    Greed is what motivates Trump - that and ego.
     

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