Do people here really not know what Colin Kaepernick is protesting?

Tens of thousands of law enforcement contacts a day across this country end in not so much as a heated word. Why?

 

Many of these unarmed innocents were shot while in a physical struggle attempting to take an officers gun away from them.

 

Typical lib prog gibberish in support of the false narrative. BTW, it's stop, question, and frisk.

Keep spreading the lies and enjoy your ignorance. I've given you the means to educate yourself but ....

BTW, who wrote the Wikipedia article titled "Police Brutality in the United States" ??

 

Repeating a claim does not make that claim true. Second... your claim is obviously nonsense since you were not at, nor do you have a record of those tens of thousands of interactions.

 

The information in the link given you references numerous sources. You did not even bother to cite your own statistics, never mind provide a link which should not be hard to do given the subject matter.

Just because the information given contradicts your claim, is no reason to engage in fallacy and name calling followed by running to the playground to stick head deep in the sandbox of denial.

It is you who refuses to be educated. Demonization of the messenger, rather than addressing the message, is not the mark of objective thought. It is called Ad hominem fallacy.

It is somewhat laughable that you ask "who wrote the WIKI article" when the claims in the article are referenced.

For example:

This is referenced to:
Cooper, Hannah LF (16 March 2015). "War on Drugs Policing and Police Brutality". Substance Use & Misuse. 50 (8-9). doi:10.3109/10826084.2015.1007669. Retrieved 16 March 2017.

The reference provides two links which give more detailed information.

But hey .. you did not actually want to discuss the "statistics".... because the statistics prove that your claim is false.

 

True. But again, "unarmed" is meaningless. In this instance, for example, the officer did not know the suspect was armed until he was shot. It was literally a half second for the thug to produce the weapon from his coat pocket and pop a few caps into da po po. This is why police have to gain control of the situation and must treat EVERY encounter as hostile until such time he or she is absolutely certain there is no threat.

 

Preposterous. We already know there are tens of thousands of law enforcement contacts every day. The number that end up with a fatality is so infinitesimal as to not even register statistically. Now answer my question - why do tens of thousands of contacts end with not so much as a heated word?

 

Frick and frack this is pathetic nonsense... first you claim "not so much as a heated word" ... now you move the goal posts to "end up with a fatality".


Make up your friggen mind what you are talking about.

 

I do not need to prove that something doesn't exist simply because a bunch of idiots claim it true. I asked for evidence that the protested issue even exists. YouTube videos are not evidence of an issue.

 

Kaepernick said:

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

If he says anything else now he’s a liar

 

Stop being so obtuse. We are talking about the behavior of citizens when interacting with the police. That is the determining factor of the outcome of that interaction in almost every case. When the cop tells you to take your hands out of your pockets and you don't? You are a threat. When you get pulled over and instead of remaining in your vehicle as the law requires you get out of your car and in the cop's face? You are a threat. When you run from the cops when ordered to get on the ground? You are a threat.

The overwhelming majority of people - of all backgrounds and skin colors - DON'T behave like this and thusly the interaction ends with? Wait for it...

Not so much as a heated word.

 

please keep up... the issue isnt what hes protesting this issue is how he did it. That scumbag wore socks with police depicted as pigs, then he decides to protest by giving America the middle finger. Thats a special kind of stupid second only to the people who took a knee after seeing what he did. Its scumbaggery like Ive never seen before in my lifetime.

 

Ok. Regardless of WHAT in his mind he is protesting, calling out his hypocrisy as well as his form of protest is still up for criticizing.

 

While conveniently ignoring black on black crime.

It is seriously hypocritical to pick and choose your causes as they align with your agenda while simultaneously ignoring facts and overall statistics.

Just like he cherry picks facts, you want to cherry pick what's valid to criticize him about. That sure is convenient.

 

Oh yeah? Post anywhere where he said to use the power of government to make them stand.

You know you cant

 

I give some evidence/statistics in Post 183 and more in the previous post to the same poster - with links.

 

You seem to be doubling down on this spin in order to avoid the topic and call everybody who aligns with the majority of trumps agenda POW haters somehow excusing Kapernick.

You're reaching really far here in fallacious attempts to win.

Care to discuss the topic?

 

You know, right up until the point when he said he was.

 

I've said this in other threads, Kap is protesting police brutality by disrespecting the flag, anthem and what they stand for.

Brung

 

First of all, he wasn't complying with orders.

Secondly, that death was an accident.

Try again.

 

Another one that has a problem with authority, then cries foul when authority authoritates.

 

Nobody is trying to silence him, we are just conducting our own protest.

Is only your side allowed to protest?

 

Pointing out the major flaws in your argument is not being obtuse. What does the fact that most people do not talk back to the police, have to do with Police aggression - even in cases where people do not talk back.

The second issue is that people are supposed to have the right to talk back to the police in a free society. Especially when police are infringing on their rights - which is often.

Bad law in this country increases the incidence of interaction between police and citizen and it increases the aggressivity of those interactions.

You seem to desire a Totalitarian Police State where the Police have all the power and the citizens have none. "Comply or be shot". You are welcome to this opinions .... I just do not share it. I see increased Gov't and Police power and militarization of our police as a serious issue.

So many now think it is their "Patriotic Duty" to cower in some corner ... begging to give up your rights and freedoms over a risk of harm that is 400 times less than the risk of harm of walking.. (Patriot Act ... now renamed by Obama to the equally Orwellian doublespeak - Freedom Act).

I do not.

Someone running from the Cop's is not threatening harm to the Police. Regardless, unless that threat is 'life threatening" the cops should not be shooting someone.


You will probably love this - I am not such a big fan.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4800748/

Just an average day in the neighborhood - for many .... but not YOUR neighborhood.

 

I get these protesting police brutality I just don't agree that there is a problem with police brutality. Every single case that's been in the news over the past 5 years has not been a case of police brutality that I'm aware of. It's been a case of people believing the news and not waiting for the facts.

 

Expecting police officers to become targets before allowing defense with a combative individual unable to follow command is dumb.

Have you ever seen a video where somebody wasn't exhibiting behavior that is contrary to simply following orders get shot?

If so, please post it up.