Does anyone know the meaning of "fascism?"

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  1. Grau

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    Ask any twenty persons and get about 7 different answers. My preference of fascism, a term originated with Mussolini, means a totalitarian government that controls virtually every aspect of the society (country) and its economy though, unlike socialism, does not actually own the means of production.
     
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    No, that is not accurate.
     
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    Because it is, you guys on the right seem to think that nothing bad can ever happen with right-wing ideology.
     
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    No its not.
     
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    the machismo business is a great one. trump, a 70 something 300 pounder who has paid for anything he hasn't outright raped, is propagandized as america's "alpha male." his incel followers love that stuff so much that they are buying "non fungible tokens" of melania whispering for them to "be better"
     
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    The Great Father.
     
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    all that
    all that carp is in the houses that the former BLM leader bought, lmao
     
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    Umm, that is inaccurate.
    Im a lefty an I love capitalism..The majority of the left has embraced it in fact. It is a tiny minority that are socialist, communist..about the same minority that are klan members on the right.
    So Trump supporters guys got the Klan, we got a few commies.
    That hierarchy thing hits pretty well with Trump supporters though. Actually that whole list.

    About as fascist as one can get.

    These traits are:

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    The Mythic Past: The creation of a mythical, idealized past to look to as a moment of national glory to which the country should return. While often based on some easily exaggerated moment in history, it needn’t be based on much at all. Leaders in fascist Italy placed a higher value on the myth itself than its historical veracity, for example.

    Propaganda: While many political philosophies use propaganda, fascists lean on it to establish a sense of “us and them,” and to frame “them” as an existential threat to the nation.

    Anti-Intellectualism: The “them” typically include intellectuals or sources of expertise that might disagree with the leadership of the government or the fascist movement. Beyond intellectuals in the humanities, leading figures in the hard sciences can also be targeted if they go against what the leader needs to be true.


    Unreality: Fascists tend to ignore details that might trouble them and define truth as whatever the leader declares it to be. This can make propaganda more effective because it allows for a leader to get their followers to ignore problems that might derail a more reality-based movement. It can also lead to things like the Nazis trying to find Atlantis.

    Hierarchy: Pretty much any fascist movement will establish a hierarchy of humanity with a particular group — be it a race, religion, sex, gender, or nation — on top and everybody else below. Equality is denied and the value of the alleged dominant group will be parroted for all to hear.

    Victimhood: Despite the claims of superiority, the fascist tends to also claim this group has been victimized by others — say, stabbed in the back while they were about to win World War I — and that bold action is needed to right this “wrong” and restore the hierarchy. This also tends to make equality look like discrimination against a group that isn’t being discriminated against.


    Law and Order: Fascists often promise to bring law and order to a nation, though they often end up more corrupt than anybody else.

    Sexual Anxiety: Like other right-wing movements, fascism tends to play on fears of and prejudices against homosexuality. Fascist politicians often frame themselves as protectors of women and children in the face of fanatic homosexuals out to harm them.

    Sodom and Gomorrah: Many authoritarian, right-wing regimes gather support from the countryside by painting the urban parts of the country as the source of decadence, cosmopolitanism, sin, crime, and moral decay. Urban elites are contrasted with the “real” citizens living a wholesome, traditional life in the country.
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    The irony of ANTIFA being their Fascist tactics, of course...
     
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    "Blood and Soil" was a nazi slogan.
     
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    Except for the fact that trump was not in a position to have total power.
     
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    Benito Mussolini was a socialist who adopted fascism because socialism was too egalitarian. He famously said:
    "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
    Using the above as a guide post, we are equipped to sniff out fascist behavior.
    For instance, Islamic extremists act out their own version ,,,
    "All within Islam, nothing outside of Islam, nothing against Islam."
    Cancel culture is a similar display of intolerance with their own version:
    "All within progressivism, nothing outside progressivism, nothing against progressivism."
    If you look inside the progressive agenda, you will find a drive to brainwash children from a young age. That's why "Build Back Better" includes the Federal takeover of education ,,, starting by indicting parents who object to their kids being propagandized.

    In 2010, progressives made up 5.2% of the population, 26% of the 20% of the population who self-identified as liberal. Today, virtually all Democrats in Congress identify as progressives ,,, because with few exceptions, they are scared of the progressive (OK, I'll say it) fascists.

    Obama, who enjoyed 90% positive press coverage, launched an investigation of James Rosen. He launched an investigation of a Presidential candidate from the opposition party. When that didn't work, he set out to frame the candidate. Typical fascism

    You'll recall, Obama sent Clapper to spy on millions of Americans without a warrant and unleashed his IRS to harass people with opposing points of view.

    I don't know where you're going with this, but small government right-wingers of the US are more federalists and libertarians in contrast to intolerant proponents of big intrusive government who have appropriated the root of the word liberal to describe their fascist tendencies.
     
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    Since when do people need a clue what they are talking about to get worked up about stuff? Spoiler alert: They don't.
     
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    Please, religion is THE KING of brainwashing.
     
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    Well keep in mind he mentioned asking your parents what 2004 and 2005 was like....
     
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    Fascism has nothing to do with the size of government.
     
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    No idea what your post is about.
     
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    Agree. Religion is virtually synonymous with propaganda.
     
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    Why do you think that is the case?
     
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    Interesting is it not? Note the mythic past can be either positive or negative as suits the would be fascistic hence what is taught by the idiots 1619 project a book that even most liberal scholars find ridiculous and CRT seek to establish a mythic negative past...
     
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    What are you objecting to exactly?
     
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    Wrong Mussolini saw fascism as Italian socialism and said so at length. His socalled third wave was little different than pre Thatcher British socialism. Save that the big owners got to run their own company's companies provided they did exactly what they were told and if they didn't well they would soon cease to be the owners. Note this sort of socialism once removed, has an advantage over British socialism in that there is always a scape goat to blame when everything goes to hell. It's a bit dishonest but everything about socialism is a bit dishonest, including its supposed raison d'etre.
     
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    Not objecting to anything just point out another way in which Democrats act like fascists.
     
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