Does it matter why people are gay?

Strange how all the sudden you have become so interested in sources.

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I don't think he gets logic. He continually makes fallacies. And I actually caught him dishonestly trying to pass of intellectual material as somebody else's.

 

So you have no sources to cite? Thought so.

 

Sources for what? What was my claim?

 

AIDS related dementia?

 

... you want me to cite an example of something not happening? *shrug* Dan White?




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It does not matter if you are gay, not killing one another is what really matters, if you repent of sins, God forgives all your sins except blasphemy against the holy spirit.

 

I didn't make such a claim.

 

That is not true at all, my own experience proves it untrue.

 

Yes, and if anyone attacks me going into Temple and the JDL catches them it would be too bad for them.

I had been persecuted for being a Gay child at the age of 9 years old, and I am no longer a victim or a defenseless little boy anymore, I am a fully qualified retired LEO under LEOSA, and able to defend myself from attack from anti Semites and Gay bashers alike.

 

If it is a choice, why does it matter to you? You are only going to think what you like and there is no one changing that. If we are born a certain, why do you care? No matter how much we tell you that we are born a certain way, you will only deny it like you are the expert on sexuality because being who you are came so easily. As for development, why do you care what the answer is? You are just going to assume that we are developed wrong or with a deformity.

Why should it matter? That is a good question. For hundreds of years, people like you made it a gigantic issue. Many of us were imprisoned, castrated, or made into deviants and finally there is some people that think we are normal..... The heathens for thinking...

 

No such thing exists.

 

Dude, I'm gay. I personally don't think the reason matters and yet every thread seems to circle back to the why. Do straight people need an answer? Do the gay people need the answer? Why is why so important? To me my sexuality just is. It doesn't need an explanation or reason, and it feels weird to have other gay people, straight allies and bigots debate it.

 

It also is annoying to have unqualified people trying to dissect me psychologically with inane blunt instruments of simplistic chicken & egg arguments, when at this point, human behavior and development is a birds nest of conflicting opinions and unproved theories.

 

It seems to matter politically and solely for the reason to justify discrimination against it. If it is a choice people can say it is the wrong choice, this is the only reason it would matter.

 

Let me try this. Insofar as it is a scientific inquiry, it matters about as much as any scientific inquiry matters. Often the ramifications of searching for an answer, and finding that answer veer off in unpredictable directions from the hypothesis being tested. I think it is a fine idea to learn how orientation is derived, just as it is a fine idea to learn how a blood type, a gender or a personality is derived in humans. Nothing wrong with being interested in the question of how you developed your orientation. But it should rest there as a scientific curiosity, rather than connecting the question or its answer to a cultural or moral reply.

Curiosity should always matter. And so should any scientific study that satisfies that curiosity. Its how humanity learns about the world and itself.

 

However, it is NOT possible, I know in my case there were factors that prove it is not simply mere attraction, I can now see a trend that started at a very early age, I always felt an attraction to boys, girls seemed to sense this and tried to attract me, I did not dislike girls, I just sort of ignored them.

 

Great point! Learning more about sexual orientation is an interesting curiosity to explore. I think both sides fear the answer to some degree. If science determines it's a choice, will that give homophobes some ground to stand on to discriminate against me? If it's found to not be a choice, will that justify the gay rights movement making homophobes look cruel and wrong? I think both sides have some investment in the answer, which is why I think what you said is so important. It should be able inquiry and learning without a political agenda.

 

There is hardwired behavior and acquired behavior, human development is molded by environmental factors as well as education and religion and experiences, there are other factors such as defining moments and traumatic events that also influence or cause changes, there are enough testimony of SS attractions at very early ages before acquired behaviors have had enough of a significant impact.