Does the military need right wingers?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by modernpaladin, Nov 19, 2023.

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Should right wingers be welcome in the military?

  1. I lean left, Trump supporters are extremists and shouldn't be in the military.

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%
  2. I lean left, Trump supporters are extremists, but we need them in the military.

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%
  3. I lean left, the 'extremist' hyperbole is endangering our national defense.

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. I lean right, I feel perfectly welcome in the military.

    6 vote(s)
    28.6%
  5. I lean right, I don't feel like my politics are compatible with the military right now.

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%
  6. I'm exactly in the dead center of the political spectrum and offended at the lack of options here.

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    23.8%
  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'd never hear the end of it.
     
  2. Heartburn

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    Do you think it would be that different from what we see from the left now?
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Oh, yeah. We wouldn't ignore it as the right has. Veterans especially would never again vote for or support Biden if he said that, not so with Trump.
     
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    I'm a veteran
     
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    Remind us again, how may were actually convicted?
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    And with 100s of cameras covering virtually every square foot of the Capitol grounds and buildings, and the passing of nearly 4 years of time, dont you find that just a little bit odd?
     
  8. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    How do you feel about Trump's disrespect for those that died for our country?

    So you disagree with the Pentagon and you feel that while on active duty and advocating for the overthrow of the U.S. government is not an important issue to investigate among the ranks? Thank you for your opinion.

    How about if I cherry picked a right-wing nut job and say they are all like that. Would that be fair to say?

    The comment is.
     
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    Do you always resort to putting words in other peoples mouths when your caught exaggerating?
    Desperation doesn't change your post. It just makes you desperate.
     
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    Never give it a thought. He's an ******* but his policies were good for the country.
     
  11. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What portion of my "desperate" comment do you disagree with, since you have said "there is no such thing as suspected active duty military insurrectionists"?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    A veteran who has not given Trump's disrespect for dead veterans a thought? Sounds like a paid up member of Cult 45.
     
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    WTF would that be?
     
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    Desperation comes in many forms. like this post taking my post out of context.

    I didn't claim there are no such thing as suspected active duty military insurrectionists as a stand alone statement.
    It referenced in the same paragraph, Anyone suspected of participating, engaging, or supporting insurrection or terrorism would be brought before a military tribunal.

    Any other exaggerations or out of context claims you want to bring forward?
     
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    I would be interested in your comments here about what the commission SecDef Austin created to look into the matter.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-military’s-phantom-‘extremists’.615723/
     
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    Need some proof of you statements?

    I would be interested in your comments here about what the commission SecDef Austin created to look into the matter.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-military’s-phantom-‘extremists’.615723/
     
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    Democrats seldom, if ever, ask what they can do to defend the nation. They are, currently, too busy worrying about how this nation is oppressing them, or their pet demographics. Today's democrats believe that only other people's kids are fodder for a military they despise as an agent of colonialism. Democrats would, and are actively demonstrating that they will, undermine this nation, and destroy the protective services of the nation so they can achieve their ultimate goal which is the collapse of this nation. Just ask them.
     
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    Which found the Biden administration exaggerating claims about extremist in the military.
    I bet you won't see that report in the Biden media.
    No different than the other posters claim of 77 extremist in the military marching with neo Nazis but when you read the report, it was actually only 2.
     
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    Well "extremist" as a label is a bit broad and not black and white. Somebody could be an anti-vaxxer and republican, but these things in themselves are minor threats compared to a hardcore extremist. The bigger issue with anti-vaxx is an unwillingness to follow orders. It's like yeah, the military might ask you to do things for the greater good that you don't think is in your personal best interest (though you may be wrong in this case, you won't be wrong in some cases), big ****ing surprise.

    So having such persons represents a degradation of military discipline, but standards need to match the needs of the military. You lower them when you have to.
     
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    I think, like most of these stories from anonymous sources, its fabricated propaganda.

    Nobody was advocating for the overthrow of government. More of that fabricated propaganda.
     
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    Yep, just like the claims of a police genocide against blacks but when the actual numbers are presented............

    Doesn't stop them from the fallacious claims.
     
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    What hardcore extremist?

    I would be interested in your comments here about what the commission SecDef Austin created to look into the matter.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-military’s-phantom-‘extremists’.615723/
     
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    Its the continuing cycle. Make horrible claims against (X)
    Then refuse to make public the findings when they get exposed for lying.
     
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    If someone denigrates and disrespects soldiers who died for our country and you, as a veteran, doesn't give it a second thought, then I would say that is not rational. Supporting that someone would be irrational, making you a member of the 45th president's cult.

    That's the second time you've not answered the question I brought up in #58.


    No one expected to find the military "packed" with extremists, but it is a legitimate concern and it is prudent of the military to find out how wide spread it is, despite the seeming unconcern and dismissiveness by the right. See table 5

    You seem to know a lot about Democrats. I could say about Republicans they are all right-wing racists who only care about the democratic process when it is convenient for them, but I am not that intellectually lazy.

    The "anonymous" source was Kelly, Trump's chief of staff, who is not known to be a pathological liar like Trump.

    The Pentagon disagrees about what you call "fabricated propaganda".
     
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