Domolition of WTC7 confirmed (again)

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    Please explain the factoring in of this "dynamic energy"
    and also the velocity had been accounted for in the fact that
    the falling bit was known to have been accelerating at 64% g.
     
  2. Hannibal

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    F=MA as always. You were simply taking the mass, not the acceleration.
     
  3. genericBob

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    a mass in motion can ONLY express the energy that it has by slowing down.
    Where is the energy transfer in order to do the work of pulverizing tons of material ( etc..... )
     
  4. Hannibal

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    Your question as written makes no sense. Try again.
     
  5. genericBob

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    Really..... exactly what bit of what I wrote is not clear?
     
  6. Hannibal

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    Try rephrasing. The question as you wrote it makes no sense.
     
  7. genericBob

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    have you seen the demo with billiard balls? one ball is stationary and one is in motion and the one in motion strikes the stationary ball and sets it in motion, while the previously moving ball stops. this is energy transfer, in the case of the WTC towers "collapse" for the falling mass from above to do any work at all, such as pulverizing mass quantities of material and ejecting it, this requires energy and the only energy available is the motion of the falling stuff, therefore slowing down of the "pile driver" ..... now do you see?
     
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    Which is why the buildings did not collapse at free fall. They were slowed.
     
  9. genericBob

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    They were slowed to 64% of g
    and you completely buy it that a skyscraper could "collapse" at 64% g
    because of fire & damage from an alleged aircraft crash.?
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Of course. It's physics.

    The physics don't lie.
     
  11. genericBob

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    so in the fall at 64% of g, the mass above is only expressing
    36% of its weight against whatever is below it, and would have
    to slow down or stop, in order to express more than that.
    physics .....
     
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    No,try again
     
  13. genericBob

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    Damn short rebuttal, care to expand upon that?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You first....you've been asked numerous times to show your work,to no avail.
     
  15. genericBob

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    So I for one am willing to leave it up to the random lurker.
    You people decide if you want to accept the fact that
    something falling at 64% of g, only expresses 36% of
    its weight against whatever is under it. Look it up, its
    basic physics 101...... and it proves beyond any doubt
    at all that the towers had to have been demolished by
    explosives, or at least some additional source of energy
    be that from black magic, or some energy beam weapon.
    whatever.....
     
  16. Hannibal

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    Sorry, but weight has nothing to do with it.

    Mass times acceleration.
     
  17. genericBob

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    and are you certain that you are properly applying "F=MA"
    in terms of "acceleration" the function is to be more properly defined as
    deceleration in that the moving mass, upon encountering resistance will
    experience deceleration in the process of expending energy.

    ask your friendly local physics professor.
     
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    I have. The force applied by the descending mass was many times greater than the resistance it encountered. Yet it was sufficient enough that the towers did not fall at full FFA.
     
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    So your assumption is: that the less than FFA downward acceleration is to be accounted for by the fact that the mass was so great, that if only took 36% of the application of said mass to accomplish not only the destruction of each and every level of the tower on the way down, but pulverization & ejection of tons of material(?) is that it?
     
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    No, that's incorrect. 36% does not enter into the equation at all. Why do you keep trying to force it in? It's senseless.

    The full amount of the mass times the rate of acceleration equals the force applied to each individual floor as it was encountered. The mass grew as more was added on the way down. Thus the force increased and the resistance per floor became less and less.

    Physics.
     
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    Post 360 in " an observation about the destruction of WTC 1, 2 & 7 "
     
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    The Destruction of the World Trade Center:
    Why the Official Account Cannot Be True
    David Ray Griffin


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