Drug Prohibition is Illogical

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    for the same reason you get upset when I use that reasoning to text and drive :nana:
     
  2. Joe Six-pack

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    That's no reason to oppose the Free Market. Legalization would create jobs.

    How many States could actually use the revenue? All of them?
     
  3. LibertarianFTW

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    Texting while driving arguably harms other people... marijuana only harms yourself. Why do you want to restrict consenting adults from harming themselves?
     
  4. JavisBeason

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    the main problem is with the "as long as it doesn't hurt others" .... it's like second hand smoke with cigs.... even knowing it hurts others, smokers still don't care and continue.

    Pot heads are the same way.... I used to take the 'I don't care' approach. Then my college dormmates moved in. They would smoke at all times.... fine, I thought. Then I realized....if they get caught with me in the room (not smoking), I still get in trouble and that affects my future career. I still tried to ignore it. Then as I was doing a paper, they began again. That stuff gave me such a headache. When I realized what was causing it, I pointed out my objections, (future career, headaches), and they still continued.

    So I turned them in

    amazingly enough, my headaches stopped and I am now employed in my career choice that I wouldn't be able to if I had been taken into custody because they were being dumb and it was on my record.

    So this "as long as it doesn't hurt others" argument is B.S. because you are unaware of how it can affect others and even when you know... it doesn't matter because "it shouldn't be illegal"

    I almost got my ass kicked that night I turned my dorm-mates in. But I am not worried about your percieved right to smoke whatever whenever. I was taking care of numero-uno
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    see my above post.... harmless drug gave me headaches. Headaches don't happen because everything is hunky-dory. I can argue that you smoking pot harms me with second hand smoke. Not cancer like cigs, but it does affect me negatively.

    You will dismiss my argument, which is another reason I will continue to sit back and lol at the fact that you can still get in trouble for having pot, no matter if you can ethically justify it or not.
     
  6. stekim

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    So you want to ban something because it might give me a headache? That's the best you got? You can leave the thread now.
     
  7. cloppbeast

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    Texting and driving kills people.

    Pot hasn't killed anybody in it's 5,000 year history.

    Have you been reading up on the old 1930s Anslinger propaganda?
     
  8. LibertarianFTW

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    Gave you headaches because you were in the same room as them for a long period of time. The fallacy that you're going by is that if drugs are legal, people will smoke them everywhere. Tobacco is legal, but I can request a non-smoking room anywhere I go. The smokers go in the smoking room, and I go in the nice, clean, non-smoking room. Same thing would happen with marijuana. You really think colleges are going to allow marijuana smoking in every dorm room, and every business will allow marijuana smoking indoors?
     
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    Pity you didn't.
     
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    And when it's illegal you HAVE to smoke it indoors! If it were legal his roommates could have simply gone outside.
     
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    Good point. Nor can colleges openly make marijuana designated rooms and marijuana non-designated rooms.
     
  12. cloppbeast

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    Well, you chose to live with your roommates. You choose to go to restaurants that allow smoking. You choose to be around people that smoke. Your rights aren't being violated, because you chose to breathe in a room with smoke.

    Well, you're a rat, nark, tattle-tale - what have you. Instead of just moving out, you got your buddies in trouble. Did you even ask them to stop, or did you just tell on them?

    So, I might get in trouble for toking, but at least I'm not a nark.
     
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    i said nothing about jobs. jobs are a reason to legalize. tax revenue is not. nor is taxation the free market.
     
  14. stekim

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    Well, if they make it legal you can bet your ass it'll be taxed. I can live with that.
     
  15. JavisBeason

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    no, I didn't get to choose my roommates.... this was a dorm. I just got a random placement.

    but call me any name you want.... just shows your enragement over the issue....

    I wasn't concerned with helping the roomies that weren't concerned with problems and concerns I had. I had legit concerns, (future career) but they ignored it. So I lost no sleep turning their d.a.'s in. One got kicked out of school, (of course he hadn't actually gone to a class all semester) the other 2 got slaps on the wrist, but they stopped
     
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    Your argument is that you got a "head ache?" The same result can come from smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol.

    But the fact remains that the State wastes money trying and incarcerating non-violent offenders that used drugs. This financial waste wouldn't exist if we legalized. This new legal industry would provide thousands of jobs, reduce unemployment, provide taxable income to the State and revive the economy. Prohibition is also illogical because people can get a prescription for legal drugs and use them the same way people use illegal drugs, it's a loophole in legal logic.

    The argument for prohibition is doubly stupid and you need to take an economics class.
     
  17. cloppbeast

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    Nah, not too mad about this issue.

    Anyway, you have failed to address my main point. You choose to breathe in rooms with second hand smoke. Your rights aren't violated.

    Before you make the point that your roommates were assigned, I'll prematurely address it. If weed were legal, you would not face the risk of getting paired up with roomates who smoke. Colleges could match up pot-heads with other pot-heads so you wouldn't have to deal with it.
     
  18. stekim

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    Or a bunch of other things. I smoked a crap load of weed in college (I didn't have any little pansy nark on me) and never got a headache. So if you don't get headaches can it be legal?
     
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    The "War of Drugs" wastes $88 billion every year in the United States.

    http://www.cato.org/pressroom.php?display=news&id=189

    Furthermore, the laws against drugs have done little to curb drug use, have devastated entire communities, created a criminal underground black market, and caused our prison population to explode.

    Did you know that America's biggest cash crop is Marijuana? Think of the economic effects if we were to stop wasting billions of dollars fighting it, and instead reaped the billions of dollars a year from taxing its legal sales.

    Many great articles regarding the War on Drugs:

    http://www.cato.org/drug-war

    Drug usage needs to be treated like a public health issue, not a criminal issue.
     
  20. stekim

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    They would ban smoking anything in the dorm rooms, so they would have to go outside.
     
  21. stekim

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    But it gives nark's headaches, so it's bad. $88 billion is a small price to pay to prevent headaches in the nark community.
     
  22. cloppbeast

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    Or that! Even better!

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  23. stekim

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    I'm assuming that since you can't smoke cigarettes in the dorm room you also could not smoke weed.
     
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    Right. I agree. Because then people wouldn't need to hide like groundhogs when they smoke.

    Plust, I like that guy's mistache.
     
  25. stekim

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    And it's fair, too. People should not be forced to inhale pot smoke. Even worthless narks.
     

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