Durham charges Steele dossier sub-source with five counts of making false statements to the FBI

The people Durham is targeting are those close to the Clinton team and far away from the Obama team. There was always a divide. There were Clinton loyalists in the Obama administration and the sloppy Clinton team were forced to legalize their use of NSA information spying on Trump; thus, the use of the FISA court to spy on Carter that was close enough to the Trump team and known to the CIA as he had helped them before. Brennan was a Clinton loyalist and instrumental pushing the Russia collusion hoax the Clinton team came up with.

 

More accurate to say Brennan was a Brennan loyalist.

 

DNI declassifies Brennan notes, CIA memo on Hillary Clinton 'stirring up' scandal between Trump, Russia | Fox News

 

Steele should have been brought before a grand jury long ago.

'Christopher Steele, the former MI6 spy who compiled the notorious dossier during the 2016 campaign alleging ties between Donald Trump and Russia, made a splash a few weeks back when he gave his first interview about it. Steele described his professionalism as an intelligence-gatherer to George Stephanopoulos of ABC News and then doubled-down on some of the dossier’s most salacious allegations, asserting, among other things, that the infamous “pee tape” involving Trump may be still out there, just waiting to be found.

Since BuzzFeed published Steele’s reports in 2017, many of the dossier’s key claims have failed to materialize or have been shown to be false. But this week, it may have been dealt a death blow when the operative used by Steele to gather material for the dossier was indicted.”
NEW YORK MAGAZINE, The Crippling Blow for the Steele Dossier, A key source for the purported dirt has been exposed, with damning fallout for his handler., By Barry Meier,
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...he-crippling-blow-for-the-steele-dossier.html

 

My take a way is Brennan was straight where he had to be. He did inform Obama as to what Hillary was up to, yet he went on cable news and lied through his teeth. Obama, by not ordering it stopped is a participant. His role will probably be inferred, not named.

 

Nothing about "nonsense." That's because Brennan took no position.

 

Directors of the CIA swear an oath to protect sources and methods.

 

Against what? The FBI walked through them like a hot knife through warm butter.

now you are basing your argument of support on the unknown. If you don't know this metric, how do you know that it supports your assertion, which is that the FISA Court protects our fundamental Liberties against illegitimate government violation when it clearly does not?

But, your point makes little sense unless a significant number of warrant applications are rejected, so, I dug around a little for this information: Since 1979, the court has rejected under .04 percent of all surveillance applications. That is, they approved more than 99.94%. That is, zero rejections until you go to the fourth decimal point. Now to be fair, your didn't define "significant" but I imagine it's somewhere north of 0.04%.

That's unmeasurable metric, so out of two supportive points, one was unknown and the other is unmeasurable? With the herculean task this Court is counted on performing, and clearly failing miserably at, we are going to need more than that.

Comey himself demonstrated the problem when he glibly told Congress that his spying on a political opponent was "justified" because the Court approved it. They approved it based on, per the IG report, 17 key factual errors and missing exculpatory information in the misleading FISA-warrant applications, and all 17 "just happened" to skew in the same, convenient, direction.

Horowitz said he couldn’t uncover evidence of any “intentional misconduct,” he also couldn’t get any “satisfactory explanations for the errors or problems we identified.” Apparently no one can be held criminally liable unless we can bore into the soul of every agent and determine criminal intent.

The FISA Court is a pretense that rubber stamps and launders FBI lies into incredibly intrusive government spying on US Citizens constitutionally protected against such right violations by our government. And, no one is being held accountable by this Court in it's biggest failure to protect our rights.

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This discussion continues at https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/fisa-reform-ig-report-andrew-mccarthy if you are interested.

 

I have worked on cases involving the FISA court. Their influence in turning aside poor cases is substantial.

 

And Biden has confirmed he was in the meeting, and that "they were asking for an investigation" of the Trump campaign. Same meeting where months after the fact, Loretta Lynch writes a CYA email as they are leaving office in January, saying Obama told them in the meeting months earlier, to keep everything in the investigation by the book.

 

Im more concerned with their influence in embracing extremely poor cases FOUR SEPERATE TIMES when it strikes their fancy to do so.

 

To each his own.

 

Do you consider the 4 Carter Page warrants to be "poor" cases or "good" cases.
Do you consider the 4 Carter Page warrants to be "substantial" issues or "insubstantial" issues?

You initially cited refused warrants as evidence that the Court was effectively securing our rights against illegitimate government spying, when clearly that is not the case. I pointed out to you that the Court refusal to grant spying requests rate is zero until you get to the fourth decimal point and you responded with a self-referential claim that has no measurement and means of corroboration. If your livelihood requires the existence of the FISA it's wholly unsurprising that you would support it's continued existence.

I firmly believed, prior to these disgusting episodes, that the Rank and File workforce of the FBI/DOJ had sufficient integrity that if this was attempted, they would refuse, resign, whistleblow, do whatever was necessary to stop illegitimate surveillance, illegal leaking, and that they would never be part of, or stand silently by while a wholesale attack on the American People, our election system and political rivals was orchestrated at the highest levels. Clearly I used to be naive. No one resigned, except for Edward Snowden, no one whistle blew, no one else went public. If you are a part of that number, a deep abiding sense of shame is in order. You have let your nation and your fellow citizens down. You have shown yourself to be completely unworthy of the trust we placed in you. You have NO authority that is not derived from us, and clearly our trust was misplaced.

After that Lt Colonel sounded off about the Afghanistan withdrawal, the right thing, then we learned that he had put a $2 Million Dollar retirement at risk, it was then clear that the problem may be our own doing in our excessive generosity. If we pay someone far in excess of what they are worth in the general labor market, we are presenting them with a ethical challenge that exceeds their moral character. And they will remain silent while James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Storkz, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, and the list goes on and on, do violence to the very rights that our Government was created to secure.

We need to reduce the compensation of all these folks to the point where they have the freedom to put their job on the line when the situation demands it, as this situation clearly did.

 

I could not disagree more. Fair and appropriate compensation is the principal safeguard against public corruption.
Because the court was misled, there can be no judgment about whether those cases should have been taken up.
As for the Lt. Colonel, he was a fool to do as he did (and in violation of his oath). The appropriate course was to resign and then speak out.

 

I gave you my theory on why no one in the FBI/DOJ blew the whistle, resigned or refused when clearly the top 4 people in the FBI were acting illegally and unethically, as well as a number of others, I think they are overpaid and fear that if they screw this up, they will never again make this much money. What's your theory on why the folks not actively involved in this stain on our nation, but aware, all kept silent?

Complete nonsense. It's the Court's job not to be misled. If they do not have the ability to spot when they are being repeatedly lied to, and then do nothing effective once they learn of it, clearly they are incapable of actually doing the job the Court is designed to do.

I'll take what he did over all the rank and file folks that sat silent. I did wonder as I watched him throw his retirement away if he had checked with his wife before he did that.

You are clearly a fan of the status quo, and if it's your livelihood, that aptly illustrates why self-policing is failure. I want to see Congress resume the oversight they tried to farm out to the Judiciary as clearly FISC is a complete failure at the role assigned to them. The Judiciary does not have institutional knowledge, the skills or the tools necessary to hold a corrupt FBI/DOJ to account, Congress does. They control the confirmation process, the budget and they hold impeachment power. I'm going to write my Congressman, once the GOP resumes the majority, this is clearly an area where they need to much more aggressively assert control.

 

I retired from active service in 2009. I'm comfortably retired, with no self-interest in play.
I think it would be immensely damaging to the country if Congress were to assume the role you envision.

 

You're comfortable with these crooks trying to fix elections and failing that, trying to drive a duly elected President from office?

 

WOW that was a odd exchange! I suppose and hope this is not the typical type of folks in these area's of law The only thing good was the retirement, a silver lining for sure!!

 

I think we may be greatly overpaying them. Take McCabe, he was "retiring" with apparently full retirement at 50 yrs of age. Perfectly healthy, fit and capable, now he gets a thirty year paid vacation with cadillac health benefits?

That's a lot to walk away from when it would be the right thing to do. We may be morally corrupting these folks by overpaying them.

 

For a very long LONG time! It's even that on down the ladder, even county, city and state employees are the same way.. Then again, the way this country is headed their money tree could dry up in a blink of an eye

 

No election was fixed.

 

"Full" retirement is substantially less than his highest federal salary. And "Cadillac" health benefits are simply the health insurance available to federal employees.

 

Bit by bit, the story unravels.
Durham Twists: FBI Danchenko Audio, Perjury Suspicions

Eric Felten, RCI

"The indictment of Igor Danchenko, the “primary sub-source” of Christopher Steele’s infamous dossier, reveals that the FBI electronically recorded several previously undisclosed interviews with the Brookings Institution researcher. Separately, it raises suspicions, according to congressional sources, that his Brookings superior Fiona Hill may have committed perjury when testifying about Steele during President Trump’s first impeachment. . . . "

 

Yes. After failing at that, they tried to drive him from office.

 

Yes, and . . . ?