Durham says CIA found data alleging Trump-Russia connection not 'technically plausible,' was 'user c

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And the list for whom the work is being done. Recall Webb Hubbell Hillary's bestist buddy to Hillary and appointed to Deputy AG by Bill went to jail over billing records, Vince Foster was facing it and killed himself, and Hillary should have gone to jail over it and her obstruction of justice in hiding them from subpoena.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Technically plausible is for a judge or jury to decide, We have a prima facie case, Trump should be INDICTED by now

    Once it's in court the Congress doesn't matter. Nobody is threatening any judges with Primary challenges . Courts have to follow the law not the Party or the polls
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What billing records......the publication clearly states they aren't, and haven't validated anything. So what you have is someone making a claim that they cannot validate with proof

    But hey, you do you !
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so now you deflect to something that has literally no bearing on what we are debating, because you cant debate it.
     
  5. Jack Hays

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    Billing records are not opinions. Durham has Sussmann cornered.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Reminding you of how much trouble those pesky billing records can bring as Sussman is finding out.
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Totally...
    Multiple Federal Death Penalty Cases in the works...
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  8. Bluesguy

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    You REALLY need some better news source to read and watch.

    John Durham Claims Michael Sussmann Lied to the FBI in Writing, Wants Text Messages Entered into Evidence

    "Durham’s team countered that the FBI would have been skeptical and would not have acted upon the data had it known that Sussmann was, as Durham’s team has alleged, a partisan.

    “The defendant’s billing records reflect that the defendant repeatedly billed the Clinton Campaign for his work on the Russian Bank-1 allegations,” Durham’s team continued in its recent motion in limine. “In compiling and disseminating these allegations, the defendant and Tech Executive-1 also had met and communicated with another law partner at Law Firm-1 who was then serving as General Counsel to the Clinton Campaign (‘Campaign Lawyer-1).”...

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    Durham has also alleged that Sussmann was the one who leaked information to the press about “a mysterious back channel between the Trump Organization and [the Alfa Bank]” — to use the words of one subsequent article. According to Durham’s motion in limine:

    For example, billing records and emails reflect that on September 1, 2016, the defendant met with the reporter who published the aforementioned Newspaper-1 article. The defendant billed his time for the meeting to the Clinton Campaign under the broader billing description “confidential meetings regarding confidential project.”...

    https://lawandcrime.com/russia-inve...ng-wants-text-messages-entered-into-evidence/

    " The indictment not only details multiple billings to the Clinton campaign as the data was collected and the documents created; it claims Sussman billed the campaign for the actual meeting with the FBI. At the time, Perkins Coie attorney Marc Elias was general counsel for the Clinton campaign. Both men have since left the firm."
    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/572861-clinton-lawyers-indictment-reveals-bag-of-tricks/
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Ask Web Hubbell and Vince Foster how much.
     
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    Wait, Sussman billed the Clinton campaign for work he did for them...COLOR ME SHOCKED

    Now prove what he did here was actually biled to the Clinton campaign ? I get my lawyers bills all the time, and they just have time in them.....but hey, KEEP THE LIE ALIVE !
     
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    YEP, KEEP THE LIE ALIVE !
     
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    AGAIN, Durham has nothing and is doing nothing but making press releases. He has been empowered for over 2 years now, and all he has done is throw out these "indictments" that are nothing but press releases. He has had 2 years, and he has literally done nothing but make accusations. Every couple of months he throws some red meat to the right, and then fades back into the shadows until the political fallout of his statements fade form the headlines. Then he does it all over again.

    I know...THIS is the one...... and then the next one comes and and that one is "the one that will get them"........

    If you cat figure out a crime in 2 years, then their most likely isn't a crime

    FFS
     
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    He claimed to the FBI he was not working for a client, but he was. Durham has him cornered.
     
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    Truth came from the CIA and FBI not Trump. Cover your eyes and ears to ensure you keep toting the lefty lie.
     
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    HOW ?
     
  16. Jack Hays

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    His text says he wasn't. The billing record says he was.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    If THAT is the basis for your total dismissal then you have nothing and have provided nothing to refute the facts as being reported.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    And he has him in his own words.
     
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    What's the lie and be specific.
     
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    And further and note the dates do I need to remind you when Trump first became President-Elect and then President?

    New Documents Suggest Democrats Sicced The CIA On Their Domestic Enemy, The President

    Newly released CIA memoranda suggest the tech gurus behind the Alfa Bank hoax also tracked Donald Trump’s movements to devise another collusion conspiracy theory. While smaller in scale than other aspects of Spygate, the Yotaphone hoax represents an equally serious scandal because it involved both the mining of proprietary information and sensitive data from the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and the apparent surveillance of Trump’s physical movements.

    When Special Counsel John Durham charged former Hillary Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann in September 2021, the indictment focused on the Alfa Bank hoax that Sussmann, tech executive Rodney Joffe, and other cybersecurity experts had crafted. The indictment detailed how Joffe and other tech experts had allegedly mined data and developed “white papers” that deceptively created the impression that Trump had maintained a secret communication network with the Russia-based Alfa Bank.


    Then, allegedly on behalf of the Clinton campaign and Joffe, Sussmann provided the Alfa Bank material to the media and to the FBI’s general counsel at the time, James Baker, with Sussmann falsely telling Baker he was sharing the “intel” on his own and not on behalf of any client. That alleged lie formed the basis for the one count, Section 1001 false statement charge against Sussmann.

    There’s Another Alleged Lie
    The 27-page indictment, however, also spoke of Sussmann sharing “updated allegations” on February 9, 2017, to another U.S. government agency, namely the CIA, while allegedly repeating the same false claim that he was not sharing the “intel” on behalf of any client. From the framing of the indictment, it appeared that what Sussmann had shared with the CIA concerned the same Alfa-Bank data provided to the FBI several months earlier, albeit updated.

    But then two months ago, as part of the government’s “Motion to Inquire Into Potential Conflicts of Interest,” Durham’s team revealed for the first time that when Sussmann met with the CIA in early 2017, he provided agents with internet data beyond the Alfa Bank conspiracy theory. This data, Sussmann claimed, “demonstrated that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations.”

    The “supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones” were “Yotaphones.” Following Durham’s filing of the conflicts of interest motion, it appeared Sussmann bore responsibility for peddling a second conspiracy theory to the CIA. But the details contained in the government’s motion proved insufficient to understand the Yotaphone angle to Spygate. That all changed on Friday, when the special counsel filed two CIA memoranda memorializing what Sussmann said about the Yotaphones and the data Joffe and his tech experts had compiled.


    What Sussmann Told the CIA
    The first memorandum, dated January 31, 2017, summarized what Sussmann told a former CIA employee in hopes of scoring a meeting with the CIA. Sussmann said his client “had some interesting information about the presence and activity of a unique Russian made phone around President Trump.” Sussmann claimed the activity started in April 2016 when Trump was working out of the Trump Tower on its Wi-Fi network. That phone was also used on the “Wi-Fi at Trump’s apartment at Grand Central Park West,” according to Sussmann.

    The memorandum then noted that “when Trump traveled to Michigan to interview a cabinet secretary, the phone appeared with Trump in Michigan.” The unnamed cabinet secretary apparently refers to Trump’s education secretary Betsy DeVos, whose husband Richard DeVos was chairman of the Michigan-based Spectrum Health in 2016......

    Even more here....https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/2...he-cia-on-their-domestic-enemy-the-president/
     
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    Yeah, Truth and Trump, simply don't mix. The rest of the above post is pure projection.
     
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    He billed Hilary during that time, but did he ONLY bill Hillary during that time ?

    I work with lawyers all the time, and I promise you you get billed for time, but not the details of exactly what they did during that time
     
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    Oh FFS.......seriously ?
     
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    It's the go to when there is no longer any real argument to combat the facts.
     
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    Wait, more made up BS that the Right was picked on ?

    FFS, So now its a memo, that they don't post here, that says things that support their theory, but they don't post it.........

    Ummm OK. Just another, "some guy I know who knows a guy who's dog shares a bowl at doggy day care with a friend of a lady who once worked with a secretary who once worked in a federal office building who told me that........."
     

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