Egyptian President 2012 (Breaking News)

Which former ambassador was it ?
Thanks

 

So the ex NDP felool then He is getting a lot of support and Naguib Saweiris just endorsed him.

Here is your man between Gaddaffi and Mubarak not so long ago smiling with his friends and one reason why I would NEVER trust a man like Moussa.

They are desperate now to get any support. For me he has no chance

No idea they did not keep the name up long underneath and I dont know him by sight to know the name.

Did you watch the debate?

 

Well two potential presidents were last night less than 4km from my front door in the studios having the 'Arab worlds first ever TV debate to be president' !!!!! This is a huge achievement and historical moment.

Problem was Mr Naguib Saweiris (he's the Christian Coptic tycoon guy, the one I voted for in the last party elections, I admit I made a big mistake there!!!) the ONTV owner decided to make as much cash from it as possible and it lasted more than I could stay awake to see. I never saw so many adverisements in my life except on US TV stations between parts of a program!!!

I recorded till 3am this morning and not sure yet if I managed to catch the end as it seemed like it would never end with the advertisements so I will watch it later tonight as I have guests today and report all of what was said unless Mayerling does it before me. In fact Mayerling why dont you do your report and I will do mine and see how we each saw it and see if we agree or differ in opinion?


The facts of it though.

The questions were chosen between 4 sources from what I think they said?. ONTV The Saweiris channel. Dream TV owned by Ahmed Bahgat another tycoon who owns housing projects, TV channels, Furniture stores and electrical goods manufacture and Internet provider company etc. Al Masry al Youm newspaper and Shorouk Newspaper. A joint venture between them.

Those questions were put into a glass bowl and a little boy picked 25 of them out. Those were the ones they used. I dont know how honest they were so cannot comment but the first part that I watched was very orientated towards religion, I have to see the rest tonight to judge.

The hosts were Mona Shazly and Yousri Fouda two famous interviewers on ONTV.

They were very strict about timing which was good and kept good order from the part I saw.

Fotouh and Mussa were given 25 questions and allowed exactly 2 minutes to answer and it was used by a clock ticking and they both bascially kept to the rules and went over by just seconds.
Then each was allowed to ask the other his own question in one minute giving the opponent 2 minutes to answer.

I watched 2 parts and Fotouh seemed more relaxed. Mussa was more aggressive and defensive as Fotouh compared him to felool. Mussa also had a bad habit of pointing his finger which is rude in our culture and confrontational and not good. He should not have done that. Fotouh also used his hands a lot (I think he is left handed?) was very expressive and seemed in control.

The content and questions I will do later tonight when I watch the whole thing. I will take some notes.

 

Someone put the full 4 hour debate here!!!

for those that know Arabic

[video=youtube;Y4r-x92f8D8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4r-x92f8D8&feature=g-u-u[/video]

 

Bravo someone done English translation of the debate for you

Seems Mussa doesn't know yet that Iran is not an 'Arab' state ( he said 2 times this ) even after 10 years secretary general of Arab League!!!

You can all now decide who is best for the job.

Part 1

http://moftasa.net/node/2779#second

Part 2

http://moftasa.net/node/2780

 

An article in an Egyptian news source titled ; 'Rise of Muslim Brotherhood frays Saudi-Egypt ties' demonstrates how harmful the Muslim brotherhood are to Egypt. What follows are excerpts (in blue) and my comments follow in regular font.

(E1)… "The Saudis viewed the ouster of (President) Hosni Mubarak as a very negative development," said Robert Jordan, the U.S.ambassador in Riyadh from 2001-03.

"They're concerned about the Muslim Brotherhood and the uncertainty of the leadership. And they're very sensitive at any hint that that movement could spread to Saudi or other Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia frets that Egypt, its strongest Arab ally and a major recipient of Saudi funding, is falling under what it sees as the baleful influence of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Riyadh recalled its ambassador from Cairo at the weekend in a spat that underlines the misgivings of the robed princes who rule the world's top oil exporter and who have watched Egypt's revolution and its often chaotic aftermath with alarm.”


(E2)…“Some Saudi leaders have accused the Brotherhood of inspiring the kingdom's main domestic opposition group, the Sahwa movement that in the 1990s agitated to bring democracy to Saudi Arabia.

"The Saudis are pragmatic enough to realise when things change. Now the Muslim Brotherhood are in power in Egypt. They have to re-evaluate the relationship," said Khalid al-Dakhil, apolitical sociology professor in Riyadh"

http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/view.aspx?id=5e364f19-8da3-445c-84af-5fea02a7de5d


The Saudis SHOULD be worried about the Muslim Brotherhood and radical Islam infecting its kingdom and allies. Before the election I mentioned that the brotherhood candidate and his endorsement of Sharia law etc would be bad for the entire region. While the Muslim brotherhoods candidate in power is bad for the Sadui allies etc it’s a tragedy for the totally brain dead or brain washed Egyptian people. For starters Egypt will lose billions of euros in free cash from the Saudis. It seems the Saudis are leaning towards not renewing it’s annual billion dollar plus funding for Egypt. Thanks Muslim Brotherhood! Specifically the Saudis are apprehensive because the Muslim Brotherhood has constantly promoted an committed political role for Islam, primarily as a revolutionary organization and currently masquerading with a wink and a nod that they approve of democratic politics. The truth and validity of their embracing democratic politics will be made evident in the next *cof* democratic election if the brotherhood allows one. The acid test of their acceptance of the democratic process will be if they lose the next election and step down.

If I were the leader of the Saudi kingdom during the election I would of stated that no funding would be avaiable to any candiate or to Egypt that elected anyone that supported the implemation of Sharia law or terrorism or terrorists. That might of prevented the election going to the dogs, so to speak. Of course I would have already pulled the financial rug out from under the MB infected government of Egypt or at least made the funding conditional, such as guarantees that the draconian Sharia law, a throw back to the dark ages, and a violation of human rights, especially women’s, would not be enacted. Unless the brotherhood have changed their stripes the elimination of Sharia law will not happen.

I, feel so sorry for the people of Egypt who were propagandized into electing those that will convert their country into a dictatorial Islamic theocracy. God bless them. However there is one bright ray of hope and it’s the Saudis shunning the MB despots, they instill me exceedingly with warm fuzzie feelings. My hat is off to the Saudi king and his country who are my favorite Arab people. At least one Arab government recognizes the devil (the MB of course) when they see him.

Reva

 

I would consider carefully the words of any man/woman who spoke without recourse to written notes or tele-prompter. That would be an honest person.

 

Indeed, Obama is a lost soul without a teleprompter. However, I do not agree fully wth your comment. I am terrifed to speak in public. Great a preacher that, a mouthpeice for God that has stage fright! Toastmasters R me. Anyway in long sermons or speeches facts figures etc are sometimes difficult to remember, as is the flow of the speech if there are delays etc. So I do not begrudge anyone who uses notes etc to help them present material.

reva

 

As long as you're aware that such apologies for orators appear to us as spurious, weak-minded and isolated.

 

From Morrocco to Bahrain and every Arab country in between was watching Egypts debate along with us.

The Arabs made this hashtag so they could share their congratulations with Egyptians for the first ever live debate in the Arab world for a leader. A historical occasion and the end of the rule of pharaohs and unelected dictatorships. A call for their freedom also to choose.

a few interesting ones no doubt Margot will call these fake or they are Shia from Qatif

"And Egypt remains the inspiring leader , Egypt inaugurates a new of era of presidential debates in the Islamic and Arab world "
Salman
Saudi Arabia

"I envy the Egyptian people for their democracy and how they escaped injustice , now I am watching a group of Egyptians working in a restaurant while watching the Presidential debate on TV"
Bandar
Riyadh

"From one year ago , there was an arrogant president who said about a people's revolution "Let's them have fun" , today there is a Presidential debate where the presidential candidate tries to win the support of the public to accept him as a president ... it is a lesson..."
Mohammad
Sharkeya
Saudi Arabia


https://twitter.com/#!/search/#مناظرة_الرئاسة

 

But I thought the Arabs hated Americans, why then this thirst for US culture with presidential candidates debating live on TV? What's wrong with your own culture and values?

 

I have never heard of hate expressed towards Americans in this part of the world.
They are not terribly fond of some aspects of American Foreign Policy however. Some Americans are not fond of their own country's foreign policy for that matter.

 

TV isn't the preserve of the West and neither is face-to-face debate. The oud is the earliest string instrument but nobody complains about cultural plagiarism at the Grand Ol' Opry.

That said, I really dislike seeing arabs in Western suits. Western politicians in kaftans ? Different matter entirely.

 

Me too. They just don't look right.

 

That's not an arab, that's a chimpanzee. Actually, his tailor has made a very fine job of the leg cut. Probably jewish.

 

I can always count on each day you making me laugh with your excellent comments Bravo

 

two in a row today

 

I don't know, I think I look quite sharp in them.

 

Is there a difference?

 

Abu Ismail says something smart at last.


"Both of them were ministers who attended the cabinet weekly meetings for long years, while the backs of Egyptians were being cut with whips in prisons," he said, refering to Shafiq and Moussa. “How can you elect someone who defended Mubarak’s regime?”

 

totally agree!

I prefer to put my vote and my conscience on the candidate who suffered years in prison under Mubarak and the man who was down organising the doctors field hospital on 25th January 2011 and that man is Fotouh

 

Egypt witnesses first mass Red Sea coral spawning event!

I think this maybe was why it is called Red Sea? the red coral spawn all over it?

So maybe Egypt is truly moving to a new phase and the coral agrees to renew life in our sea.

The last week SUPERMOON gave us explosion of coral spawn!

A blessing for Egypt.

 

Nice one.

 

aywa helwa gidan gidan

 

You have earned yourself dual reports, one for this flaming reply and another for the teleprompter flame job. Keep it up if you enjoy hurting yourself, your friends and members of this forum who want to hear civil comment, not malicious middle school type prattle. I highly suggest that you stop and desist for your own good and for the general good of this forum. It's time to stop the insults etc, that includes my comments as well, even if I am defending myself or slinging mud back at the usual suspects. The mud stops here.

reva