Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    That is a lie.
     
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    She doesn't seem to be Native American by any widely accepted standard. Would any tribe let her join?
     
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    The Cherokee Nation now has rebuked her. In a statement, they said:


    "A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

    - Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    She said that it was the family story that she had some Indian ancestors and that the family said Cherokeee. DNA says she has some Indian. Who cares it it was. Cherokee or Mohawk.
     
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    This is all so bogus by Warren. One of the reasons I've been putting off buying one of these DNA tests, interesting as they seem, is that the tests only compare one's sample to samples provided by people living, or having lived, in different parts of the world. So if my profile comes back saying ".08% Scandinavian," it only means they matched me to someone who once lived in that geographical area long ago. But who was that person?

    We do know, because both of my grandmothers spoke French fluently in my presence, that I am at least half cajun (even they did not claim noble descent). Cajuns originated in rural France, some of them in Normandy, and (hello) Vikings colonized that area.

    And check it out: Ibn Hawqal, an Arab geographer, described a Viking slave trade in 977 A.D. that extended across the Mediterranean from Spain to Egypt. Others recorded that slaves from northern Europe were funneled from Scandinavia through Russia to Byzantium and Baghdad.

    One thing that ".08% Scandinavian" would mean: it would make me more of a Viking (or possibly Arab, LOL) than Warren is an Indian, LOL.

    And suddenly I feel the call of the sea!

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    Trumpies care.

    Not sure why.

    But, Trumpies are clearly OBSESSED.

    Warren really knows his to Troll gullible Trumpies.

    Why are Trumpies so easy to troll?
     
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    She said her parents had to elope because of the oppression they underwent because her mother was Cherokee. Ffs. She claimed minority status at Harvard... she has less than half what the average white American has by way of DNA. The woman is white.

    She proved what? She may have 1/1024th native American, or Mexican, Peruvian, or central American heritage? That's what you are spiking the football over?

    This is sad.
     
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    What else can I do? I don't know ... I can maybe ask the blue eyed, lily white Warren to stop calling herself an Indian. Because she isn't.

    If I have one great great great great grandmother who traces to Italy, does that make me Italian?

    Warren's a fraud.

    Pass the spaghetti, paisano.
     
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    Why? Because they don't like white people pretending to be Indians. Heap big lie.

    Ugh.

    -- Chief Sitting Chef
     
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    Wouldn't it be hilarious if that "Mexican" heritage proved to trace to one of the conquistadores? Since so many Indians died when the Europeans came to America, it's more likely anyway.
     
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    Yeah but when you have less in you than the average white person either:

    You have to be excluded from progressive stack, or
    The average white person is included in the progressive stack, making it pointless.
     
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    Yeap there it is, Trump's a liar but Warren isn't. You guys are hilariously deranged.
     
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    Nah.

    Trump ISN'T a "liar" to people who honestly believe that "1+1=3" .
     
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    Good god it was even listed in her bio at Harvard, get over it she was FOS and has only made it much worse. The idiot of all idiots.
     
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    I don't think anyone on the right claims that Warren ever claimed that she was 100% Indian. The problem is that "Harvard Law School had identified Warren as a 'woman of color' in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity." Where do you think they got that bit of exaggerated information? It has no qualifier, and it obviously came from Warren (she admits as much). If all this test proves is that she MAY be 1/1/024th Indian, it's effectively ... the claim she made at Harvard is a lie.

    I happen to have a great-great-great-great grandfather named "Castro," from Spain via New Orleans. But if I ran for office and claimed to be Hispanic based on that, my Latino "brothers" would rightfully laugh me out of town. But I have a greater claim to Hispanic heritage with only that than Warren has to "Indian" ancestry!

    She's a sad fraud. Pretty blue eyes, though.


    ~Le Spanish Chef
     
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    Well one thing is for sure he's a lot more accurate than you. Your the guy that guaranteed a Hilary win or you would leave the board. Yeah you definitely know about 1 + 1 = 3, serious derangement my friend.
     
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    Warren is a fraud.
    She is in la la land.
    Just like Hillary,

    She claimed here minority status for what reason???
    For possible gains.

    Trump has her pegged big time.
    Pocohantas will be haunted by this forever.
    Go ahead and run for pres pocohanatas and Trump will nail you to the wall. Lol
     
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    How about such people who would apply so little "native American" heritage to further themselves as, "native American"? Maybe that is why you perceive Trumpsters as 1 + 1 = 3

    How little counts for benefits?


    Moi :oldman:



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    Absolutely.

    Les Langues Fourchues.
     
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    Like most people, you don't understand DNA. It only connects a subject to subjects who once lived in a given geographic area. If they trace your DNA to Peru, are you descended from Indians? Or from Spanish conquistadores? How do you know?
     
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    Native American professor: Warren shows 'privileges of whiteness'

    In a statement, TallBear said Warren has refused to meet with Cherokee Nation community members who have challenged her ancestry claims.

    “This shows that she focuses on and actually privileges DNA company definitions in this debate, which are ultimately settler-colonial definitions of who is indigenous,” the statement said. “As scholars of race have shown, it is one of the privileges of whiteness to define and control everyone else’s identity.”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...lonial-definition-of-native-american-identity
     
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    The Cherokee Nation is SLAMMING her for her attempted deception and dishonoring legitimate Native Americans.

    ""Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation," Hoskin continued. "Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.""
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ch...-test-useless-to-determine-tribal-citizenship
     
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    Then over half of Americans are this minority which means it is no longer a minority. In fact those of us without more than 1/1064 native american genes are now the minority and that means me.
     
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    Thank you for admitting the DNA test never said it was conclusive she is native american.

    She is the one claiming this DNA test proves she is. And she had a specific claim of Cherokee ancestry. That was a lie.

    And the fraud that did the test has admitted he pulled from Mexican Peruvian and Colombian. NOT Native American and certainly not Cherokee.

    And she never claimed this fake heritage until her late 30s when it could matter her getting a job. Never before that. Ever.

    You backed the wrong horse. Big time.
     

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