Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

When the natives were paid by the Government, do you have clue one what their standard is to pay the alleged natives? She dismisses her true European heritage to try to make use of some poor natives.

 

Brings her closer to the people, makes her one of them.

 

Not me LOL I never figured he is.

 

But she has slightly more DNA from Neanderthals and giant tree sloths. I am 0.0002% TRex, myself. You do not want to be a Swedish meatball when I am around.

 

These are some great tests!



Senator Hatch Office

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These DNA tests are quite something.

4:33 PM - Oct 15, 2018

 

I didn't admit anything of the sort. I said that DNA tests were suggestive not conclusive. You truly have zero capacity for nuance do you?

No she's saying the test supports her claim. I'm a legal Native American and I believe her in the context of her life's experience and what her parents, grandparents etc. told her she was. Her actual blood degree may be minimal but you know, there's probably a few Choctaw who aren't Chocktaw a few Muscogee who aren't Muscogee and a few Cherokee who aren't Cherokee. They probably all believe they are what they say they are but the trail of tears was messy and the removal men didn't really care that much for ethnic purity.

It wasn't a lie, it was what her parents and grandparents etc. told her she was. If your family had told you you were Polish or Russian and it turned out you were actually Dutch or German would your claim to be Polish or Russian be "a lie"?

IMO it would be a lie if her parents had lifelong told her she was a pure bred Scandinavian (which is what she looks like to me) and then she went around claiming to be Native. That would be a concious decsion to deceive. But her commitment to the ancestry she claims is pretty convincing to me that she never intended to mislead.

Like I said, there's probably some tribal Cherokees that aren't Cherokees. They may not, in fact probably do not, know it but they almost certainly are 100% Native Americans. I doubt there's a DNA test in existence that's able to be that specific.

You don't know this. She could have told a hundred people she had Native American heritage and she'd be right, distant as it is.

I'm not so much backing her as I'm backing the notion of kindness and civility. I remember when this first came out, the sight of a bunch of overprevileaged white males wearing fake headdresses and waving plastic tomahawks. That was a disgusting display of outright racism depicting Native People as some kind of cartoon. I suspect Elizabeth Warren has more sympathy with real Native Americans than those idiots ever will.

 

Oh, stop, LOL. They were making fun of Warren, not real Indians.

 

Oh you think?

 

I understand you are desperate to defend this failure and I am still correct that they never said she had native american blood.

LOL And you think that's different? Seriously, how does that make sense in your mind? And it still doesn't support her claim in the slighest.

Your unproven personal claims aside even the Cherokee nation denies her claim. Your inability to deal with reality is really sad.

Of course it was.

she's claiming that with no evidence to support her while we already know she lied about recipes for a native american cook book. That was conscious. She copied them from someone else that had nothing to do with native american cooking.

Or are you going to claim she had some kind of out of body experience to cover for her lies?

Or were you simply so uneducated on the subject you didn't know that either?

She has a proven history of lying about her heritage via the fake cookbook recipes she provided. What evidence to you have other than her word to back you up? List it. Not hopes dreams and faith in her, but actual evidence. Go ahead.

So you have nothing to defend yourself but a unsupported personal theory. Got it. Dude when the very nation of Cherokees said there is no evidence how can you possibly sit there and deny the truth with nothing but a fake personal theory?

Wrong again. This is the first documented claim she ever made. Before that there is no evidence. No papers claiming it, no working with any Native American tribe whatsoever. Once again you have nothing but your religious belief in anything she is claiming. No facts whatsoever support you.

Sorry sport, when someone is proven a liar with the cookbook recipes and documented to make this claim ONLY when it could advance her career all the blind kindness in the world can't save it.

You just can't accept reality can you? You want to live in a world where she is believable with no track record of being believable and dismiss all real evidence that flies smack in the face of her claim including her proven lies about recipes for a native american cookbook.

How do you go through live dismissing reality and embracing unsupported hopes and dreams?

 

Due to having ONE great great great great grandparent? I wish your standards for Italian ancestry were a little higher than that.

And it was Warren who made all this an issue by claiming to be a minority. She isn't.

The Boston Globe sparked a campaign controversy by reporting that from 1986 to 1995 Warren had listed herself as a racial minority in the Association of American Law Schools (AALS) Directory of Law Teachers. Harvard Law School had identified Warren as a "woman of color" in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity.

I'm about the same color as Warren and have the same b.s., unprovable "family folklore" would die of embarrassment if I got caught doing this. She claimed minority status for NINE years!

As long as the grass grows and the buffalo roam, I will call her what she is: paleface.

 

No, I know.

 

Hold it ... she's the one who claimed minority status. She needs to back it up or admit that she was either lying or living a fantasy. This current test doesn't establish herself as a minority any more than my own (greater than hers, but still remote) connections to Spain make me spanish.

 

You guys notice that on the Left, you can be a woman if you think you are, you can be oppressed if you think you are, and now you can be an Indian if you think you are.

 

And a Lying Paleface at that.

If I were an Indian I would tell white liberals to stop pretending to speak for me. I would let them know I really didn’t like them deciding to rename me after an Italian mapmaker.

 

So you challenge the DNA test as to it's conclusion then..........as I said, that a better angle of attack. Tks for making my point.

 

WUT???!!!! There is something missing from this post in order to make it actually coherent.

 

Ironically enough the ONLY person who has abused Warren's native American heritage for his own nefarious political gain is the BLOTUS himself. Now that he has been exposed as a racist bigot (again) none of this supporters are holding him accountable and demanding that he pay over the $1 million to charity.

 

The Onion

✔@TheOnion
Elizabeth Warren Disappointed After DNA Test Shows Zero Trace Of Presidential Material https://trib.al/k7LDljd

1:59 PM - Oct 15, 2018

 

Part native American....but still share the DNA. Does that affect any purity requirements for the average white citizen?

 

Lying Lizzy Warren is the Liar who is trying to appropriate Cherokee heritage. Calling her a liar is not a Trump insult to the Cherokee, the Cherokee heartily agree with Trump! But, perhaps you a privileged White Woman can Cherokee-splain to the Cherokee what a Cherokee is.

Why Elizabeth Warren’s Lies Are Good For America:

“So let’s all appreciate Elizabeth Warren’s contribution to the demolition of America’s corrupt affirmative action regime. It is long past time that we stopped classifying each other by race and bestowing benefits on that basis. Warren’s message is liberating: we are pretty much all Indians, or Hispanics, or African-Americans now. So let’s move on.”​

 

Shysters like the BLOTUS NEVER do!

 

Using the "duck theory" produces results like these...

 

Ironic coming from a supporter of the privileged LYING BLOTUS who is RENEGING on his own promise to support charity!

 

Because that's not what DNA tests prove, they are suggestive by comparison, not definitive.

It supports her claim in the best way I think a DNA test can. Trump said he wanted a DNA test, so he must believe they're supported by a sound methodology, right?

I actually agree with the Cherokee Nation. That's the only way they could have handled this politically. As I said before, if she'd approached them with her theories first and done some research to see if there was a record of a family connection they would probably have been really helpful to her especially if there was a family name on the Dawes Rolls or something corroberative.

Well the reality is it wasn't a lie. A lie is conscious, it's what her parents told her (and presumably believed) was the truth.

Nope, she claimed Native American heritage. She's not a Native American but the DNA test "suggests" that her heritage claim is true. It obviously meant more to her family than it does to most.

Her parents told her she was Cherokee. She believed them. They probably showed her recipies and told her they were "Cherokee", that's probably what they were told before she even came on the scene. Family lore is strong in America. There is no definitive American, that's why people look for anchors. I'm pretty sure Cherokees never made crab omlets!

If you honestly believe Senator Warren deliberately lied about this, there's nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise. What she said was true to the extent that she believed it to be true. She only had her parents' word to go on and that's what she did.

I saw the book. There's nothing in there that couldn't be ascribed to just about any cuisine in the world. Eggs and fish, wow!

No she doesn't. She claims to be descended from Native Americans which, given her familiy's geography, isn't unlikely.

Well the evidence that Mr. Trump sought was a DNA test. She has taken that test which concluded that she has Native American blood to the degree that she claimed she had.

Like I said, that's the only way the Cherokee Nation could have handeled this politically. If she'd approached them with greater respect, they might even have come out more on her side.

The first "documented" claim isn't the first claim. Most people's claims aren't documented until they start to make an impact on the political or legal stage.

I see no evidence that advancing her career was a factor. Her career would have advanced regardless. She could have been more tactfulll but, come on, Trump's the President, what are the boundries?

Oh no I can thanks.

The chances that she is Native American to the extent that she claims to be are greater than the chances that she is not. That's just numbers but the real question is how much that matters to her family and how much that would have had an impact on her identity.

I look to Trump supporters and they unfaillingly show me the way.

 

The fact that people have made a huge issue of about Warren's claim to Native American heritage exposes those people as a$$holes and scumbags in general. Especially since many of those who have railed about this constantly are continually whining about the press picking on a loudmouthed lying idiot like Trump. Calling her Pocahontas is about as petty and stupid as it gets. If you don't like her politics, why not take issue with that instead of engaging in this idiocy.