Eureka, the answer; mystery solved why USA now ghoulishly divided!

Sure, y'all might some be tired of my aged-born thoughts. But hear this. Today it's the EVER-Trumpers versus the NEVER-Trumpers. There can be no denying that. I'm now concluding that folks who declined to watch and follow the TV show The Apprentice (ie it wasn't their ilk) became never-Trumpers; and those millions upon millions who followed the show came to love and respect DJ Trump, primarily I presume for his supposed, albeit unyielding/unforgiving, business acumen.

 

Never watched it unreality TV is a waste of time.

 

And I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop! Uh ... will you be voting for DJT if he is the GOP candidate?

 

I never wasted my time watching the Trump show. I always viewed him has a rich, spoiled child.

But since he ran against "Crooked Hillary Clinton" in 2016 and "Dementia Joe Biden" in 2020, I voted for him twice. And if he's running against "Crooked Dementia Joe" or "Slick Gavin Newsom," I'll be forced to vote for him again.

 

I did watch quite a few episodes of the Apprentice over the years and was always a never Trumper.

 

Great! You prove conclusively that if there is any truth to my OP conclusion, then it is not limitless.

 

There is no choice because I don't vote for socialists.

 

I agree with your assessment of Hillary but I'm not so harsh while judging our current president.

 

The premise seems faulty. I never watched a single episode of the Apprentice, and had no interest in Trump as either the Real Estate guy or the New York celebrity guy.

In fact, the idea of your premise doesn't seem to make sense. If you watched the Apprentice you liked his America First agenda, and if you didn't, you were ga ga for Hillary? I'm not seeing it.

 

No, just seditious traitors. You saw what he did after losing the election.

 

I didn't know any socialist was on the ballot. I guess the communist/socialist scare never gets old in GOP land.

 

Wow. You really think it was because of a TV show? Amazingly shallow thinking, that.

I used to live in NYC. We did not refer to him as The Donald out of affection or respect. Many Americans were never-Trumpers before he announced his candidacy in 2015, and it had zero to do with The Apprentice. Many didn't watch it because we already abhorred the guy.

 

Reality TV is an oxymoron. It's all scripted.

 

Yep Trump is vastly less dangerous to the country than the alliance between The administrative state and the Democrat leadership.

 

I can not vote for either team at the same time.

 

We are so divided because the Democratic Party has set massive precedents for not enforcing any laws that go against them or their constituencies starting from Hillary and continuing all the way down their ranks to their black and white smash and grab looting rioting mobs.

And as sad as it is, every action has an equal and opposite reaction so as the Democratic Party has gone full bat-S crazy, the Republican Party now has their own crazy element hellbent on being able to do the same the Democrats are already getting away with.

 

I regret that I unwatched this thread when I did, since there have been a couple of really elucidating answers during my hiatus.

 

It’s code for cheap TV, since the talent has wide latitude to take it where it goes. The word “scripted,” isn’t right, but impromptu isn’t, either. They totally reshoot fight scenes, for example, and that’s when the scripting comes in heavily.

There are exceptions, like Survivor, which is not scripted. It’s a great experiment in group dynamics, which I studied in college. Used to love that show, until it went full tilt SJW.

 

Democrats are not the same as socialists. Every industrialized nation, in Europe and elsewhere around the globe, has programs to provide for the needy, the aged, the infirm. There are myriad provisions made to keep the populace from starving to death despite their falling short of total success in this fast-paced highly commercialized highly competitive machine of ours, which we would blithely refer to as "The Rat Race".

For example, in Massachusetts where I grew up way back when, the State naturally wanted every car owner to carry liability insurance. But insurance companies begged off when driver-applicants for that insurance had been cited for traffic offenses or they had had past accidents. The companies felt it would encroach on their profitability if they granted insurance thereto. So the State passed a law that imposed what they called "assigned risk", compelling the various insurance companies to follow a set scheme wherein each company was forced to insure their fair share of 'undesirables'. That wasn't Socialism! That was necessity. And necessity, as everyone know, is the mother of invention.

 

That is, in fact, the state taking ownership of the means of production, but forcing the private entities to take the loss, which in turn, puts higher rates on me.

The federal government currently has the opposite issue - we privatize gains and socialize losses, which puts higher taxes on me.

Neither of these are acceptable. If people get in accidents, they can pay a higher rate. If they can’t afford the rate, they can ride a bike, train or the bus. Put me in the “boo hoo too bad so sad,” camp on shitty drivers getting higher rates. Blech on that.

You are absolutely condoning socialism with that.

 

I'm pretty darn certain that the shitty drivers were forced to pay higher rates; it's just that they couldn't be flatly turned down. It was a complicated scheme if I recall, rather byzantine (I just learned that word a few hours ago!).

 

I’m against forced relationships, actually. I’d like to do away with the Civil Rights laws and see how things go. I suspect better than most lefties would envision and not as well as most on the right think.

 

AOC and Bernie Sanders are the current soul of the Democrat Party. They make no bones as to what they are, socialists. One acute observation has been Sanders failed to get the Democrat nomination, but he as well have because Biden has enacted or pushed for his programs.

 

Well, it is the land of the igno-- I mean, of the people who don't know the meaning of the term "Socialist."

 

I have a different reason. I can remember a time when the two major parties weren’t divided on ideology. Both had their moderate, conservative and liberal wings. Then the two major parties began to rid themselves of their unwanted ideological wings. The Democrats their conservative wing, the republican their liberal wing, the old liberal Rockefeller Republicans of the northeast, the democrats their solid conservative south. Yes, once the Northeast was republican and the south solid democratic. Once both major parties achieved getting rid of their unwanted ideological wings, both major parties then started to get rid of their moderates. Both today wants only 100% pure ideologues in their party which has caused today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide along with the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship. Which has left both major parties much smaller than before they began their ideological purges. Back during Eisenhower and JFK roughly 80% of Americans identified themselves as being Republicans and or Democrats. This number who affiliated themselves with the two major parties dropped to approximately 70% during Reagan, down to 60% during Obama and stands at a bit more than 50% today according to Pew Research and Gallup.


As the two major parties shrank with their ideological purges, more and more Americans were left behind without a political party to call their own. The result is today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship. Where both major parties have their litmus tests to belong to them. Neither wants anyone who doesn’t pass their litmus tests with 100%. Gallup today puts the major parties base at 26% democrat, 25% republican 47% independent or non-affiliated. A far cry from 82% who identified with both major parties during Eisenhower, 46% democrat, 36% republican, 17% independent. But then there really was no ideological divide as both major parties were made up of conservatives, moderates and liberal. Then the purges began.


Back during IKE, the Democratic Party was known as the big tent party, the working man’s party. The Republican Party was known or called the country club party, the businessman’s party. Not anymore.