Evangelicals Bend Over

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, after a person has developed as defined by law, anyone willfully killing him might be charged with murder.

    If that is the topic that interest you, it is not the one under discussion here, Evangelical hypocrisy is.



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  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Some evangelicals promoting a self-admitted p*ssy-grabber can suggest that he was indulging himself in a false narrative after he was exposed, but most Americans believe the independent testimonies of a dozen women who support his stated claim to being a sexual predator.
     
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    Nice deflection from the point I was talking about that you brought up.
     
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    You have yet to prove that any hypocrisy exists in eyes other than your own.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Whether some are in denial, I'm seeing evangelicals, like the GOP, divided against themselves by Trumpery.

    The hypocrites should take it up with evangelicals who condemn their hypocrisy.

     
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    Kindly refrain from imposing your own denial of reality on others.

    TYIA
     
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    Right back atcha
     
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    Thanks to WikiLeaks, we know the Democrats’ nominee and likely future president is the most corrupt in history.
     
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    Didn't read dumb thread.

    Let he who is without sin grab the first pssy.
     
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    As far as I know, he has not been in government and has never been lobbied to pass a bill
     
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    I will make no apology for voting for Donald Trump. Clearly he is no angel, but he is also the only available candidate who supports at least some of my agenda. To my fellow Christian who reject Mr. Trump out of hand I will say only that the worst form of hypocrisy is to stand on principle while knowing beyond a shadow of doubt that doing so means that every principle you hold dear will be shortly there-after trampled in the dust.
     
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    I will make no apology for voting for Donald Trump. Clearly he is no angel, but he is also the only available candidate who supports at least some of my agenda. To my fellow Christian who reject Mr. Trump out of hand I will say only that the worst sort of Hypocrisy is to stand on principle while knowing full well that doing so means that virtually every principle you have will be shortly thereafter trampled in the dust.
     
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    Nor does the neo-nazi Daily Stormer that is standing by its endorsement.

    Evangelicals obviously differ regarding moral commitment vs political expediency, and their feud is an internal one that has been festering and is now exacerbated by the phenomenon of Trumpery.

    The reality tv performer has religious fundamentalists raging at each other just as he has engendered deep spiteful divisions in the GOP.

     
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    He's a dumb demagogue with a mouthful of excuses.. He's claimed the system was rigged against him for over 30 years.
     
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    And Hillary has profited from that system for thirty years. She has gotten rich dealing political favors and you support that and complain about trump.. Sorry but the differences I see favor Trump about five to one. And the political system is damn well rigged and current campaign finance law is one of the means of rigging it.
     
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    I think you are confused as to my position.
     
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    I agree that what Anderson Cooper said is a lie, but I wouldn't dare compare lies his level of lying to that of Hillary Clinton. He's not nearly as bad.
     
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    So what is preventing you from clarifying your position?
     
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    Much ado about nothing. Not every Christian is fundamentalist, there are many division within Christianity and these began to occur well before the death of the last of the apostles. You can find some of the stranger off shoots mentioned in the book of revelation.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, even the most virulent of evangelicals differ.

    It is the ones that are the neo-nazis' and white supremacists' political bedfellows that are intriguing.

    Their version of Christianity is disputed by those who are not.
     
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    So what is leading you to the conclusion that the onus is on me to prove that "Trump is molesting them to obtain their votes", when I have made no such assertion ? Why would I set out to prove something that I do not believe ?

    What is preventing you from clarifying YOUR position ? You came from so far out in left field, its hard to even know what to clarify. If you explain your position in greater detail, I would then know what it is that you need to be clarified.
     
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    You fallaciously alleged in post #20 that the title to this thread is sexual assault.

    It was pointed out to you that evangelicals were not being forced to vote for Trump ergo there was no "sexual assault".

    The onus still remains on you to prove that sexual assault exists since that was your contention in post #20.
     
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    The title to this thread is in fact alleging a sexual assault, and that is actually the only subject to which I was referring. Whether or not sexual assault exists or does not is wholly irrelevant to my comment ( you can take that issue up with the OP). The only thing that is relevant to my comment is the assertion by the OP.

    The expression "bend over" is commonly used slang, so any debate over its meaning is going to have to remain in the common sense realm. To me, it means get ready to get f*ck*d in the *ss. In that context, it is meant to denote something that is negative. In the context of the OP, he undoubtedly intended it to be something negative. You or the OP can sit there and pretend that it could just as well be referring to consensual sex, but we all know that wasn't the intent. If it were intended to mean consensual sex, he would not be using it to refer to the negatives that Trump brings to the table. Consensual would denote something that is good or desired, but the OP undoubtedly is referring to the moral quandary that supporting Trump creates for evangelicals which is why hes alleging that Trump is f*ck*ng them in the *ss.

    In that sense, he is saying that Trump is forcing them to bend over and take it in the *ss, which is undoubtedly a non consensual reference and constitutes joking about sexual assault, particularly if you are going to utilize the logic put forth by Anderson cooper, which was the entire purpose of my post.
     
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    So let's be clear----A hypocrite by any other name is still a hypocrite----if you don't understand that analogy----a nod is the same as a blink to a blind horse--
    I am reminded that back in 2008 when then VP candidate Sarah Palin was so full of herself she actually thought she could change some of the BIBLES wording to fit her ideology----Er, wrong----self righteous hypocrites are the worst kind of Christians----
     
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    Great. So we're in agreement: God can make use of flawed people, and self righteous hypocrites are the worst kind of Christians.
     

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