Every House Democrat Voted To Crush The Dreams Of Women Athletes With The Ironically-Named ‘Equality

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  1. dairyair

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    That is what I implied.
    RW, white and male only. Implies D's are for all others.

    Both are for identity politics. 1 party is very very restricted in their identity.
     
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    And the evidence is there for all to see. It seems leftists have to guess what Republicans stand for or have been told by someone in their media. They certainly don't get it from Republican party platforms.
     
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    Wrong again. The Dems are all about identity politics. That's it. You've been misinformed.
     
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    Yet most of the posts in these thread is rightists guessing what leftists stand for.
    All we here from rightists is faux BS and tRUMPisms.
    The R party platform, white and male. What's different about it?
     
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    Not wrong, I actually agree. The D's are for all identities. The R's identify to white and male. They are just more restrictive in their Identity politics.
    If I agree with you, how am I misinformed? Unless you think you are misinformed.
     
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    Perhaps you haven't been misinformed, unlikely as it is, but actually believe that the Republican Party is restricted to White Males. I can't debate with your beliefs.

    You're also confusing 'identities' with 'identity politics'. Not much I can do about that either, but do wish you luck.
     
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    There are 22 Democrats running for the Democrat nomination for President and almost impossible not to hear and see what they stand for. Their positions are clear and have been for the past decade or so.
     
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    Identity politics has always been a trait of rightists. But restricted to 1 religion, 1 color, 1 sex orientation, 1 gender of sex.

    History[edit]
    The term identity politics has been used in political discourse since at least the 1970s.[5] One aim of identity politics has been for those feeling oppressed by and actively suffering under systemic social inequities to articulate their suffering and felt oppression in terms of their own experience by processes of consciousness-raising and collective action. One of the older written examples of it can be found in the April 1977 statement of the black feminist group, Combahee River Collective, which was subsequently reprinted in a number of anthologies,[7] and Barbara Smith and the Combahee River Collective have been credited with coining the term.[8][9] For example, in their terminal statement, they said:[3]

    [A]s children we realized that we were different from boys and that we were treated different—for example, when we were told in the same breath to be quiet both for the sake of being 'ladylike' and to make us less objectionable in the eyes of white people. In the process of consciousness-raising, actually life-sharing, we began to recognize the commonality of our experiences and, from the sharing and growing consciousness, to build a politics that will change our lives and inevitably end our oppression....We realize that the only people who care enough about us to work consistently for our liberation are us. Our politics evolve from a healthy love for ourselves, our sisters and our community which allows us to continue our struggle and work. This focusing upon our own oppression is embodied in the concept of identity politics. We believe that the most profound and potentially most radical politics come directly out of our own identity, as opposed to working to end somebody else's oppression.

    — Zillah R. Eisenstein (1978), "The Combahee River Collective Statement"[10]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

    If one goes by this wiki article, it grew as a result of male whiteism(IMO). Which is largely associated with the rightists in the country.

    It grew from those not wanting to be oppressed anymore.

    Rightists are those who prefer restictions of people's rights.
    Leftists are more for equality of all peoples rights. No matter their color, sex, sex preference, religion, or any other thing the rightists want to restrict people from being treated equal.
     
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    Doesn't mean the posters here don't claim the left is for all those positions that all 22 have posted.
    Most every thread here is the left this, the left that. Hell, in one thread the Chicago Cubs management is the left.
    If a RW disagrees with something, they say the left. As if every left person in the world thinks exactly the same.
     
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    Very Wrong. The D's are for all identities split apart and minus the majority identity. Divide and conquer. Get the minority's on the government plantation.
     
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    Zillah R. Eisenstein, huh? If you want to go back to that era, and it's a good starting point for identity politics (though it goes back to the roots of leftism) and who better than Saul Alinsky, the political inspiration for both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

    It was he who inspired the modern idea of what we now know as 'identity politics' and why you use the term so freely. We saw Hillary and Barack use identity politics during their campaigns and Dem candidates using it now (Rich versus Poor,etc.) and the rise of groups like Antifa where those who are not Democrats are Nazis, Fascists, etc. and therefore okay to attack. This has happened to private citizens and the more simple minded leftists are, in fact, encouraged by Democrats to attack Republicans and any others who don't agree with them. Different identity, different rights..

    It's the Dems Jim Crow Laws being brought up-to-date and used on any political enemies, just as you're doing on this thread..
     
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    That's what makes an honest discussion difficult with tRUMPers.
    D's, the majority of them are also white.
    And equality for all, isn't splitting anything.

    Divide and conquer is what the 2 parties do to the people who are loyal only to party.
    It's how they can become even more elite than us peasants.
     
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    As wiki says, it was the repressed who started the term and politics as a means to get more equality.
    Something that the RW seems to fight to this very day.
    Why is that?
    Antifa has nothing to do with the dems.
    tRUMPers are attacking most of America. Just look at the war they brought back on women.
     
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    sigh...

    I don't think you quite understand behaviorism. For sexual attraction, it's quite a bit more complicated and subtle.

    A good example would be the forward to Skinner's radical behaviorism. Skinner believed that science can be strictly applied to behavior. This is the basis to his particular branch of behaviorism he called "radical behaviorism". That means there is no cheating by referring to unobservable affects in order to explain why organisms behave as they do. So a colleague asked him how he could explain how he could say "a black scorpion is crawling on me" (or close to it) despite no black scorpions in the vicinity.

    That is the kind of rigour that needs to be applied to describing behavior, rather than asking dumb questions.

    You ask a question about virgins and whether they have a sexual orientation. Fair enough. What do you think?

    If you start talking about private or unobservable behavior, then you have abandoned science.
     
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    I don't NEED to understand behaviorism in order to understand what sexual orientation is.

    Absolutely they do!

    I'm not talking about private or unobservable behavior, I'm talking about private or unobservable sexual orientation.
     
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    Well they won't settle for that.
     
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    I was talking about the idea that a trans-man would be as much of a woman as the ACTUAL women in the woman's team. I was saying that, people who have adopted this idea are not operating in the realms of reality. Are you one of these people who has adopted this idea?
     
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    I had bolded this part of your post.
    And I said, it's a good thing the insane left isn't operating in your realm of reality, or else we'd all be living like the Amish. That is the reality that conservatives want to live in. Never change, always stay the same.
    We'd still be living in the times of 1700s if not for the insane left.
    We may still be paying taxes to the British, if not for the insane left.
     
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    Keep in mind that these are the same insane left that took up arm against Republican just so they could keep their whipping boys, late night sexual encounters and unpaid labor! Yup, if not for the insane left the whole country wouldn't have this dirty shlt stain we cant seen to wash off ;)
     
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    Okay, so are you one of these people who has adopted the idea that they would be just as female as the biological females in the team?
     
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    What is just as female?
    There are feminine females and masculine females. That are not transgender.
    I would put them close to the masculine females, but that is only an opinion. Some may be in the middle of this spectrum, some maybe even be closer to the feminine females.
    I would assume, it is also on a spectrum.
     
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    So there is no equality today despite all the leftist efforts over the decades? Ask ANTIFA members who they voted for in any election and I'll wager it would not be Republican. Perhaps you should explain what equalities Republicans are against and who they are attacking 'all over America'.
     

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