Evidence for The Exodus Indeed Was Found (1978) - MOD WARNING

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  1. Margot2

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    Westernesse is a fictional kingdom in the Middle English romance of King Horn.

    LOLOL.. who knew.
     
  2. jrr777

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    Of course the Exodus took place. Of course Moses existed. There have been many areas in the Bible that have taken a very long time before they were found. Just because they have not found it means nothing. Other historical events within the Bible have been proven to be true. And nothing within the Bible has been proven to be false. If you say the Exodus, you would be wrong. They will find it, all in time.

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    Let me hear it!

    Anything is possible, nothing is impossible. But please............continue your whining.
     
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    It would seem the weeping does not come from me.
     
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    They have been trying to find evidence for Exodus for 150 years. It never happened. Its a morality tale probably borrowed from the much older romantic story of Sinhue.

    Or, there may be another source.. The Hebrews borrowed stories from older civilizations such as Sumer, Ugarit and Egypt.

    Ask yourself why they would have to eat manna when they could build a fire with dried dung and roast a goat?
     
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    This is the problem with people taking the Bible too literally instead of in concept, allegory, parable, teaching tool etc. So the OP must belive that Jesus took 5 loaves of barley cakes and 2 small fish and fed thousands. Or that the tree of knowledge really grew in a physical place called the Gatden of Eden and knowledge actually came from eating fruit and that snakes talk or a woman for Adam can be made from a rib taken from him. Well maybe so ! A little DNA from herecand there. Or that without artificial insemination there can be virgin pregnancy. And one day's worth of oil can burn for 8 days. Or that angels actually used the mark of blood above the entry four to decide who to kill it not.

    Back on the forty years , why woukd it take 40 years to cross the desert when the distance was not all that great from Egypt to Israel? Two millions people could have conducted a flash mob excercise and pushed the lead group to Israel in no time. If the Egyptians were chasing them theybwouod have moved faster and did the trip in 40 days. The dystance. between Cairo and Jerusalem is 263 air mile so triple that fir walking miles 789 miles. A group walking in open desert can do an average of 20 miles a day. So round the distance to 800 miles and we are talking 40 days not 40 years.
     
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    See Goshen.

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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they were just lazy. Their shoes and clothes lasted 40 years without wearing out so it seems that they didn't do any hard labor.
     
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    There is no evidence of any kind in any of those videos and in fact plenty of evidence to the contrary.

    There has never been any evidence to support the story of exodus and even virtually all israeli and Jewish scholars who have studied this for yewars agree.

    The story is made up.

    The video claims to find various things such as a blackened mountain top. The fact is many many different things can cause such blackening of a mountain top which means it proves............nothing. BTW the video outright lies about photographs being off limits or forbidden by the saudi government.

    It mentions some columns or pillars which are common throughout the ancient world and in the video the columns shown are CLEARLY more recent than the thousands of years which have passed since solomon nor are there any markings making them anything more than another set of columns in an area thick with columns.

    Then they cite a carving of a menorah on a rock which they then make the leap to claim means it is where the golden calf was placed. Drawings of bulls and a menorah ( which was introduced into jewish culture many centuries later than the time of exodus ). Of course none of this proves a damned thing.

    It is because of this garbage that Ron Wyatt was proven to be a con artist.
     
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    Obviously the authors of the tale thought of that and simply provided the fiction of manna from heaven etc to explain that detail away.

    On the other hand having spent some time in that part of the world I find it ludicrous that anyone can stay lost for that long a period of time. The geographic region which is referred to as the wilderness is just not that big. Imagine a tribe of thousands of people wandering around the woods of Kentucky for forty years completely lost without finding their way out of the woods. The idea of the exile in the wilderness would be very similar.

    It is a very silly story
     
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    The fairy tale is a jumbled mess and things get mixed up. The time in the wilderness is probably meant to explain the events between the time the Israelites gave up their old ways and when they adopted their list of over 600 rules that were intended to make them "new people".

    Once you consider the intent of the fairy tale then it becomes easier to understand its stories.
     
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    " nothing in the bible has been proven to be false" You are either jesting or have never read the Old Testament or perhaps have absolutly no familiarity with science.
     
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    When your faith can move a mountain please arrange to do so on the Science Fiction Channel. And actually, we would be willing to settle for a small pebble.
     
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    There's no shortage of characters like that selling BS to Christian audiences, either. I wonder if jrr777 is a Kent Hovind fan as well?
     
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    The last one is a given, and he has probably not spent much time actually reading the Bible either, especially start to finish as opposed to reading selected passages cited by someone to support some claim or thesis.

    I had to laugh at the opening to Exodus, where Pharaoh was allegedly ordering Jewish midwives to kill the male children and then getting all surprised upon discovering that they didn't obey him.

    It's also a given that jr isn't in the least bit familiar with how mythmaking works, how ancient cultures made up fake histories wholesale as a matter of course and never distinguished between fact and fiction, but went with what was religiously and politically convenient.
     
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    That story is so messed up on so many levels. Moses' mother has her daughter dump baby Moses into the Nile to be a croc's snack. Sounds reasonable. Then the Pharoah's retard daughter saves baby Moses and, get ready for it, get's Moses' real mother to nurse him. Later on Pharaoh's retard daughter raises Moses as her own son. Now maybe Pharoah was old and senile or maybe he had a herd of kids scattered all over Egypt and couldn't keep track of the grandkids. But I'm willing to bet in real life one of Pharoah's stooges would have tipped him off as to what his retard daughter was doing in violation of his decree.

    In the meantime Moses' mother gets knocked up again with baby Aaron, who she keeps safe from the crocs. There's no mention of who Moses or Aaron's father(s) were or why they had no dialogue in the fairy tale. So it's no wonder Moses grew up to be a psycho. His mother hated him enough to feed him to the crocs and he never knew who his daddy was. Just the type of guy who would hear voices in his head and think that he was pals with God.
     
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    His lies are really quite obvious.
     
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    It is evidence of the depth and perversity of lies, misrepresentations and irrationality that jrr777 and others like him will swallow just to cling to their religious beliefs.
     
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    It is best when one has nothing good to say, to not say anything at all. Just some advice that obviously has not been given unto you. For what you said has no meaning................. whatsoever.
     
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    Finally, proof that god is real. All god needed to prove himself was youtube. Wonderful.
     
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    No sorry but the actual statement which you should try to take to heart is " It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
     
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    So Jesus should has kept quiet, right?

    Matthew 21:21 (CEV) = "But Jesus said to them, “If you have faith and don’t doubt, I promise that you can do what I did to this tree. And you will be able to do even more. You can tell this mountain to get up and jump into the sea, and it will."
     
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    The powers that be both now and the entire history of man, have been deceived by the fallen one, allowing for kings to be deceived into thinking another king must go, this is played over and over, the fallen one deceiving allowing for wars, killing, rape, and all evil, taking away from man God's true intentions. Leaving us without knowledge of what is actually "possible", and replacing it with the knowledge of evil, which is deception and lies. Your reality was given to you many years ago, given to you by man in an attempt to keep power or control over all souls of earth. Given kings and queens the wine of fornication and all the delicacies that come with it. To maintain king, a life is nothing to the king, and he will take it without thought or question, weather this is one life, or millions upon millions. Sounds as if this is something "YOUR" all for.

    Now-a-days when power is threatened, as it appears to be now, we will see it in the billions of lives killed, of course if were not one that's killed. You think the president or elected officials want such a position as to benefit the people? That's funny!! No, these people are specifically chosen by the true kings and queens, leaders of the world (bankers), as to keep the fraud alive. Fraud not just in money, but what is given to us as our reality, it's all a fraud and the veil is being lifted.

    You claim for you to believe in God, you must first see evidence. Well if the actions and desires of men throughout history and now doesn't give you any insight, nothing will, other than the second coming of Jesus, and I only say that because I truly believe that assuming you will be alive in the next few months, you will be here to witness it. If one waits for the television to say warning we are at war, they waited to long. If one cannot see war coming, they are not only blind but far out touch with reality.
     
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    You think the Book of Revelation is futuristic?

    Problem is.. Israel doesn't have a king.
     
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    Who is the king of kings and lord of lords?

    You would say that America does not have a king either, rather a president. Well the president is the quarterback so to speak, and is merely told what to do by the real king/kings, which are behind the curtain. What your claiming is what used to take place, but what used to take place the people would no longer fall for, there was a war specifically for this. So now they put in the quarterback (spokesperson) who adheres to the coach, but this coach is one you cannot see.
     
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    Would you mind calling out those lies, or do you just go around calling people liars with no "evidence", which is something you claim to not live without. And at the very least, try to keep in mind, being wrong is different than lying. So again, please call out any of my lies in detail, lying is evil and we were told to call out evil when we see it. Thus if you catch me lying, I will admit it, and focus where I went wrong.

    Where did I lie?
     

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