Evidence for The Exodus Indeed Was Found (1978) - MOD WARNING

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  1. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    I stated that you "swallow...lies, misrepresentations and irrationality", not that you lied yourself.

    Reading comprehension is an acquired skill. Keep working at it. You have quite a long way to go.

    As to identifying the lies, misrepresentations and irrationality that you have swallowed, please look up the meme "PRATT" (Point Refuted a Thousand Times). It's already been done. Study hard.
     
  2. jrr777

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    Most certainly........you did! And I absolutely stand corrected!!

    I cannot argue that reading comprehension is an acquired skill. What I can argue is what I did, is something from time to time we all do. Except of course.....you.....who on the matter is 100% perfect. I would keep this silent, but there are a lot of people out there with reading comprehension skills.
     
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    That's unfortunate for God. 65% of Israelis say they are either 'not religious' or 'convinced atheists'. Only about 25% truly keep the Sabbath. 60% don't keep it at all.
     
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    AKA "The great falling away"!!!
     
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    Actually I would call it the 'real understanding of what the Bible doesn't say'. Work that one out.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying it doesn't say "great", if so it doesn't. The "falling away", is when a huge number of people no longer believe in Christ, even the churches will have falling away. This also leads to the man of sin the son of perdition being revealed. And what happens after that, pretty much Armageddon, mark of the beast. Thus this falling away is very significant or "great".

    2 Thessalonians 2:3
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
     
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    No. I'm saying that what the Bible says has little meaning when understanding that your quotation was meant for the first centuries. No one then believed that Christianity would last 2000 years but thought that Jesus would come long before. Your quote has been used time and again down the centuries. Christianity would probably have been an extinct teaching if Constantine hadn't made it the state religion and the Church enforced that religion down the centuries by various means and threats.
     
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    First of all your completely wrong about Constantine. He was the first one to figure out that the harder Rome tried to persecute/abolish Christianity the stronger it became. So he embraced it, specifically to use it against those who taught it. To infiltrate it, is to be within it, placing desired preachers to slowly manipulate it (treason from within). They knew it would take some time. It is not until now where it is very easy to see, most top churches are very corrupt. Even though the scriptures say, "A camel has a better chance walking through the eye of a needle, than a rich man getting into heaven." Look how rich the pope is, who claims to be not only a Christian, and not only the vicor of Christ, but Jesus Christ himself, hidden under a veil of flesh. Look at the most wealthiest Christian priests and churches, why is it they have all this money, when God's people are dying of hunger and thirst?

    Revelations was not written for the times it was written in. Revelations was written so people would be able to see the signs of the times. Meaning whenever the time of Jesus return comes, people will see it first. It explains what armies will come from what direction unto Israel, it explains a vast rise in disease, hunger, thirst, and a tremendous rise in sin. So many things it explains, I could go on almost all day. But I will spare you, for you would not read it anyways.

    Revelations is a revealing, a lifting of the veil. "There is nothing hidden, that shall not come to light." Meaning Revelations will reveal all lies, and even though this happens, most will still cling to those lies, and some will not even have the eyes to see them.
     
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    The Revelation letter was written to the seven churches of the first century..

    Are you at all familiar with the Scofield heresy?
     
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    I agree. My father not to long ago came back into the light. He quit cold turkey on his drinking and became very shameful for his sins. It took him a long time to finally feel like he was forgiven. But when I try explaining to him that the Sabbath was changed by the Vatican in concert with Rome (he does not believe it). It was a move for the Vatican to show their ecclesiastical power, and this they admit. They said that nowhere in scripture does it say that the Sabbath cannot be changed from the end of the week to the beginning. Yet it specifically says in the ten commandments, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy. It doesn't say and keep it holy, it says to keep it holy. The only way to keep it holy is to remember the day in which it is, Saturday.
     
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    Christians celebrate the resurrection on Sunday.
     
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    The 10 commandments are a made up list of earlier instructions found in earlier civilisations and the 'Sabbath' day taken from Babylonia. They used it as a holy day, but also considered it unlucky. The Sabbath day - day of rest (not always religious) - is also in many earlier civilisations. Early civilisations recognised the need for a day of rest .Many of the Jewish Festivals, rituals are adaptations of older practises. And Christianity has adapted some Jewish beliefs and practises for itself. Even things like the day of Jubilee (50th year) is from earlier times.
     
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    Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea. All of which are in Asia.

    I have not heard or read the Scofield heresy. Is it a conspiracy theory about the Jews?
     
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    Scofield is a futuristic interpretation of Revelation.

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    Can you explain how you believe the book in which you got this from, and not the Bible?

    I could be wrong but I believe your "civilisation" is spelled civilization, (with a z).
     
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    Yes, they have been deceived. The Sabbath is Saturday. Research it.
     
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    Civilisation is the proper British spelling.
     
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    I didn't get it from just one book. I've studied ancient history and codes that are far older than the Bible. Civilisation can be spelt with either.
     
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    Your using English yet one word in British.

    I respect your thoughts on the Bible, but it will never sway me from my faith in Jesus Christ, nor the main message of the Bible.
     
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    I use English because I am English. There is no main message of the Bible. The Message of the OT is to the Jews. The supposed message of the NT is to Christians.

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    In any form of English or American English 'Your' means belonging 'to you'. You are (using English) is You're. Apostrophe indicates missing letter. Is not - isn't. Cannot - can't.
     
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    Are you saying I put my own foot in my mouth? It's not the first, I doubt it be the last.
     
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    Not really. Just trying to help your English.
     
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    There is a main message in the Bible, both OT and NT. It's the coming of Jesus the
    Messiah and salvation to all mankind.

    The NT is as legitimate as the OT because God wrote both of them. To the Jew first
    then to the Gentile and they both agree without contradiction.
     
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    :laughing:
     
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    Science is the devil because it doesn't affirm the bible? That's an iron aged throw back regressive position.

    The best thing you can do for christians and christianity is quit talking about it.
     

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