Ex-Mueller team members suggest they knew outcome of Clinton email probe in advance

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  1. navigator2

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    It's a noun, just like shortness. Both accurate descriptions of the stature of your post. :roflol:
     
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    If the classified information was intentionally or illegally retrieved H.Clinton would have been charged with a crime. The fact that she was not proves that she did not intentionally or illegally retrieve it .

    You are trying to bake it sound as if she was somecRussian spybor working for the Russians. You do realize that is the work of the Trump Treason Family not the Clintoniestas who have their own foibles.
     
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    So why the hell didn't he?? So he just caved to the deep state? So he's just a coward lol
     
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    Yet the only way to put classified information into her mail system was intentionally.

    The only other possible explanation is that the Secretary of State had no idea that there was a difference between classified and unclassified.

    Which would you like?

    And no, just because she committed the crime and wasn't charged for it does not prove that she didn't commit a crime.
     
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    Now the investigation includes the FBI it has morphed into not just Clinton but conduct of ranking members of the FBI
     
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    Who do you appoint to FBI positions, Deputy Fife? You can't recruit outsiders to do an insider's job. They'd be lame ducks the minute they got their pencils and stapler. :roflol:
     
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    You know the answer to that question, of course.

    Don't worry though, Congress is working on it.
     
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    To prove an intentional act one has to prove that she was aware that it was classified and intentionally placed it in jeopardy. Did she know that the server was not secure and did it it intentionally ?
     
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    There is no way that the Secretary of State was given access to classified information without the full awareness and training that comes along with an SSBI level security clearance. No.

    There is no way to log into a classified network without going through a system that reminds you that what you're accessing is classified, and the penalties for removing that information.

    There is no way to get classified information off of a SCIF or SIPR connection without manually, illegally, and intentionally doing so.

    Occam's razor: She knew what she was doing because she must as the SoS, and because the system is designed at each step to tell you what you are doing. Inadvertantly copying information from classified to unclassified is impossible without intentional steps to do so. Therefore we know she committed the crime.

    The only question is why was she not prosecuted for it.
     
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    Why lump them? Just indict her, you keep saying you've got all the evidence you need.
     
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    We have to be patient with investigators ... right? Patraeus guilty plea came 3 yrs after he resigned.
     
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    Lame ducks? He's the only one who can fire them!
    This lack of accountability for the president is terrifying lol
     
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    So you'd appoint key law enforcement leaders who know nothing about the system? Putting corruption aside for a moment, that's a recipe for disaster. It's like hiring plumbers to wire your house. :roflol:
     
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    Ummm, no...all it proves is that the fix was in.
     
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    My brain hurts. Your argument basically makes fighting corruption impossible.

    I guess all those racists pieces of **** who lynched black people over the decades never did it because corrupt loca authorities didn't charge them.

    You need to take a break.
     
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    Yeah maybe they didn't know that hanging people would kill them, therefore they're not responsible.
     
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    Oh so we're not sure if Hillary broke the law? Sure got a different impression on this thread...
     
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    The depth of evil the debate as sunk to is scary. This kind of logic is the path that kills millions.
     
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    Yes because deep state is another RW conspiracy with no basis in reality
     
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    And is still in I guess
     
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    But apparently knowing the system means their part of some moronic conspiracy
    The excuses for trump get deeper and deeper
     
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    Time will tell, but it sounds like it's being re-looked at.
     
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    Trump screwed up by hiring Sessions. No two ways about it. I'm sad the pit bull Guiliani didn't get the post. There would be a special counsel, but it would be on Clinton and Obama crimes. :eek:
     
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    They aren't sure if she had classified email on a private server? They aren't sure what she told congress? They aren't sure she deleted emails?
    Based on RW talking points there was more than enough evidence already to lock her up until she dies.
     
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    And if there wasn't you'd be here telling us he's part of the deep state lol
     
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