Ex-Mueller team members suggest they knew outcome of Clinton email probe in advance

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  1. RichT2705

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    Maybe they're not sure what she and everyone else associated with her, was already given immunity on by Obamas Justice.
     
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    Nope. I've already said (and Trump even said it after he was elected), were it not for this distraction and ruse of a witchhunt, Trump would have let bygones be bygones.
     
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    Been around this tree a hundred times before.
    Trump refuses to go after Hillary for reasons I can only surmise have something to do with her having something on him.
     
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    Nah. "Lock her up" was great fun, showmanship, and carnival barking but Trump was ready to move on...............until Democrats weren't. This may not end well for them, the law of unintended consequences.
     
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    Wow seems like that'd take about 15 minutes to determine. This deep state runs our govt but works really slowly I guess lol
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems the wheels do move slowly, I agree. With the new revelations that this wasn't really investigated at all...I'd move faster.
     
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    Yea whats the point of even having government servers if this is allowed to happen?

    Lets save some tax payer money and have every bit of government data posted to a public Dropbox folder.

    And the bold part is something that never ever got enough coverage despite being so important.

    If there were materials on the Clinton server that the Clinton team said we cant see because they're classified then how can that same team of people claim ignorance as to the fact that they were classified?
     
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    Ha ha ha ha you are just zoned in on a partisan attack scenario. She had the inforamation stored on a private server which was a stupid move no bout about it. You are jumping the fence into fence into what would be approaching spying by her. She did not distribute the infuriation to Russia or China. She did not invite the Russians or the Chinese to view it. She did not invite thecRussians to hack it!
     
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    Oh yes the old "fix us in excuse". GMEAB
     
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    You want to convict her on your wishes and Bruetbartblike so called "news" reports.
     
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    :roflol: Mr Putin, I'm gonna make my buddies at facebook ban you.
     
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    Partisan? Are you kidding me?

    The server itself is proof that she was avoiding the federal record as SoS, FOIA laws, and government records act. These are also all crimes.

    Simply setting up the server is criminal, as we now know that the entire time she was at state she didn't even HAVE a government account. That is a crime. Several actually.

    You're also trying to gloss over the FACT that the only way classified information got on her personal server is if she TOOK IT OFF A CLASSIFIED NETWORK AND PUT IT ON AN UNCLASSIFIED NETWORK.

    There is no disputing any of this proof, and there are MULTIPLE crimes here.

    That you overlook these crimes is the only evidence of partisanship in this conversation.
     
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    That's not the standard. Its knew or should have known it was NATIONAL DEFENSE INFORMATION. Classification is a sufficient rather than a necessary condition.
     
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    Yahoo mail is dying a slow death...........or maybe fire up those old AOL accounts, if the point is expense and not security. :grin:
     
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    Nah..........Bo Peep threatened Putin with unfriending him. :eek:
     
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    So you're saying she intentionally set up that private server as a means of evading the record keeping requirement? She intentionally set up all of her traffic to go through an unapproved and unsecure (as it is defined under the law) receptical?
    Because that would be a violation of the espionage act.
     
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    As well as FOIA and Records Act.
     
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    O sure, but he's already admitted that. I'm trying to illustrate to him that he's wearing blinders and is already down the road a piece IE the same logical act which allows him to say "she did the server on purpose to avoid the records requirement" shows that she would've violated the espionage act in similar fashion.
     
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    They might be pretty dusty...

    Better wipe them off...

    Like with a cloth or something...

    BAAHAHAH

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    zb, please learn your audience. You're talking to people who said Trump colluded with the Russians to win an election he didn't want to win. You're talking to people who said it's possible to insure tens of millions of people and lower the cost of insurance. You're talking to people who think a boy can be a girl. You're talking to people who only a few years ago were for a border wall and against SSM who today are now for SSM and against a border wall. You're talking to the highly educated and intellectual elite who need Mika and Joe to tell them what to think.
     
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    Haha, its funny when its all typed out like that.

    Funny and ...sad ...cause of how true it all is.
     
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    :roll:


    First, Clinton claimed in March that “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.”

    Conveniently, after it was discovered that her email did, in fact, include classified information she claimed that “I did not receive anything that was marked as classified.”

    We know this “marked as classified” trick is a complete and total ruse, having debunked it before.

    But on Wednesday, Clinton’s spokesman repeated this deception, saying again: “No information in her emails was marked classified at the time she sent or received them.”

    But as Clinton well knows, whether the information was marked or not matters little. Because writing classified intelligence information into an unclassified email does not make the information unclassified. And it doesn’t excuse the fact that the classified information itself is still included in your emails in the first place. Those who have security clearances are responsible, and liable, for following proper procedures and the law.

    Ron Fournier points out in his National Journal column entitled “Parsing Clinton: Deflection, Deception, and Untruths.”

    “What Clinton doesn’t want you to know: Federal rules put the onus on government officials like the Secretary of State to protect classified material, even when it’s not marked as such. Government officials have been convicted of mishandling unmarked classified material. Any chain of events or excuses that led to the disclosure of these documents begins with Clinton’s decision to go rogue with government email.”

    John R. Schindler, writing for the Daily Beast, further underscores this point:

    https://www.speaker.gov/general/secretary-clinton-s-marked-classified-email-deception


    Bombshell: In Email, Hillary Ordered Aide to Strip Classified Marking and Send Sensitive Material.....

    The State Department claims none of the emails now marked classified were labled as such at the time they were sent. However, one email thread from June 2011 appears to include Clinton telling her top adviser Jake Sullivan to send secure information through insecure means. In response to Clinton's request for a set of since-redacted talking points, Sullivan writes, "They say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it." Clinton responds "If they can't, turn into nonpaper [with] no identifying heading and send nonsecure." Ironically, an email thread from four months earlier shows Clinton saying she was "surprised" that a diplomatic oficer named John Godfrey used a personal email account to send a memo on Libya policy after the fall of Muammar Qaddafi......snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...ers-aide-to-strip-classified-marking-n2101680



    Clinton told FBI she thought classified markings were ...
    www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-told-fbi-she-thought-classified...
    Hillary Clinton told FBI agents in July that she thought the classified "C" markings on emails recovered from her private emails were just a way to put paragraphs in alphabetical order.

    :juggle:
     
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    Who's not sure? Clinton broke the law(s) ... that much is certain. THESE investigators haven't PRE determined the outcome of the investigation, before assembling all the facts. The extent of the breaches must be determined so that approprite charges, befitting the offense(s) are rendered.
     
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    You are confusing a stupid, careless, asshat action with a criminal action.
    I understand that you are frustrated that after 17 2/3 investigation on the Benghazi allegations which produced nothing you are hungry fir some red meat to sink your chops into. Well wishing for criminal activity is not the same as having proof of criminal activity.
    It's the same with the Trump character in that there are those who wish that there is absolute proof or colusion. Well maybe with some staff but it will be very dificult to shield that Trump was directly colluding with the Russians. Maybe obstruction over the firing of Comey and trying to make Comey back off doing his job. We will see.

    We can wish for something but that does not make our wishes reality. I could wish fir a $232,000.
     
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    The leftness, although I think some know she is and are just relieved she didn't get hooked up as anyone else would.
     
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