Ex-RNC chair says Trump is racist: 'The evidence is incontrovertible'

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  1. Steve N

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    Without using a dictionary define racism. By the way, your post is bigoted and hateful, but it's not racist. When someone explains to you what racism is then you'll understand....maybe.
     
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    Okay?
     
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    Wow. You think your race is evidence that we should all accept that you have an education? Are your thoughts always that racist? What races do you identify as not having a likelihood of having an education?

    And we were going by experience I'm in IT and have dealt with hundreds of Indians and one of the last things I would assume is an education based on their skillset and mistakes in the business.

    But then again I would never assume all Indians are uneducated just like I would never assume all whites are educated. Unlike yourself of course. And you were making fun of Stormfront with that attitude?

    Then why did you mention them? :)

    You responded to a denial he was racist then you posted 2 cases where racism was never proven. Are you always this sloppy?

    Absolutely.. He never lost :)

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/4959...ed-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case

    I think you would be used to it by now. You make a claim that's fake and I disprove and defeat it :)
     
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    Barry is allowed to say things like that though, because of his skin colour. But youz are all racists!
     
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    Most countries want to improve themselves, in this country the left only wants future voters, they even put that in a memo and I'm serious about that.
     
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    Why would you use an example of an accusation of racism as proof of racism then?
     
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    Clearly you understand racism as you use it quite effectively in every post you create.
     
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    yea a black man knows nothing of racism but an old right wing pasty face does

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    A racist comment? Go figure.
     
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    He was commenting on the people there, not the country. Much like if a foreigner called the US a shithole, they would be commenting on the US people, not the country. Trump was not feeling any sympathy for the shithole countries, he does not care about the government corruption
     
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    you have no clue about racism
     
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    If that was the requirement why did we ever let in anyone who wasn't from an economically thriving constitutional republic?
     
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    Prior to the advent of boats, and planes(basic transportation, etc.) these thoughts would not have been a thing. To quote President Obama: "The world is global.". One of the major consequences of that is that while it's all good and well to hope for assimilation, why would a person change their lifestyle just because they moved to a different country?

    In the ideal, perfect world every country would be financially healthy and have a government that respects human rights and thus there'd be no need for immigrating outside of the home country. Sure, tourism is a nice boon but I think that by and large, whereas other animals have the tribal pack, we humans are segregated by nature.

    Different diseases, different immune systems, etc. This isn't a support of racialism, but a biological fact of man from the beginning of time, up until now. That doesn't mean "no one come, EVA!" But it does mean, just as the case with the Syrian Refugees: Would we be better off restoring quality in the Middle East and Africa? Or continuing to pray for the assimilation of others?

    Also at work here, is that individuals can assimilate more easily than groups. A Person can make any choice he wants, but often one individual does not speak for the group and the group doesn't speak for the individual. This challenge is what creates racist perceptions in the first place.

    Imagine a black man growing up in a neighborhood predominated by those with Neo-Nazi/Ku Klux Klan ties. That black man would think negatively of White People, his perception then changes as he finds Whites who aren't prejudiced against Blacks.

    Basically, we need to find ways to tell the difference between individual behavior and group behavior.
     
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    Liberals.
     
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    The definitions of our words don't rely on your color to "interperet" them correctly, but nice try.
     
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    Yes, I was posting simple demographics. It's unwise to say I'm uneducated considering our extremely high education rate.


    1. Well that is simple. Just because he settled with a consent decree doesn't mean I think he was innocent of discrimination. That is why i'll still post the interviews with some of the employees stating there was discrimination and WaPo backing it up.

    AND THEN,

    2. I know :)

    3. I recall turning you into compost every time with proper facts and citation. Especially that time you said you asked for proof of you defending Moore, than I posted pages and pages of it while the entire forum laughed at you. That was particularly fun. Or that time you randomly thought I mentioned Trump in a generic poll thread even though the word Trump never appeared.
     
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    Yes but unlike the rigjtvthey aren't saying people from there deserve that shithole and not better opportunities.
     
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    Good question.

    Maybe we could set the bar above: "murderous third world violent shithole" as a compromise?
     
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    Liberals allowed a bunch of drunk Irishmen who were dying because they ran out of potatoes?
     
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    Well maybe I can get a blackie to explain it to me from some urban shithole?
     
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    Neo-liberals of today are not the liberals of the past. Today’s liberals want open borders without immigration laws.
     
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    Exactly how does that explain your racist claim that because you are Indian that menas people should assume you have an education? What races do you identify as not having a likelihood of having an education?

    And we were going by experience I'm in IT and have dealt with hundreds of Indians and one of the last things I would assume is an education based on their skillset and mistakes in the business.

    But then again I would never assume all Indians are uneducated just like I would never assume all whites are educated. Unlike yourself of course. And you were making fun of Stormfront with that attitude?

    You know what? That I'm right and you are still wrong?

    Was he ever forced to admit racism on either of those lawsuits? No

    Did you pretend that proved his racism? Yes.

    Were you wrong again? Yep :)

    You mean like when you claimed I "tooth and nail" "religiously" defended Moore and you couldn't even find a single quote of mine that said he was innocent and I produced my own quote saying I had disagreements with multiple stances of his?

    That is always your Achilles heel. You make a grand claim then when its really time to back it up, you can't. Words matter. If you had said I questioned the stories of his accusers you would have been 100% correct but you just couldn't help yourself trying to paint me into the biggest Moore supporter you could and in the end you couldn't find a single quote of mine saying he was innocent. Not one. :)

    Yes that was amusing watching you flail around in desperation to find a quote that didn't exist. I do thank you for the entertainment :)
     
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    Every single Progressive I personally know, lives the whitest and safest life imaginable. None are from poor backgrounds, and none have ever lived to any meaningful extent amongst the people they constantly champion. OTOH, the white people I know who live happily in a non-white world, are all moderates or conservatives. The more I look into the mechanics of this stuff (psychologically speaking), the more I'm inclined to think that Progressivism has strong compensatory drivers. They're essentially would-be's-if-they-could be's, so need to shout.
     
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    I like Bill Clinton's response.

    President Bill Clinton
    Eight years ago today in Haiti, the earthquake claimed more than 220,000 lives. Today we should remember all those who lost their lives, including some Americans and people from other nations working for the United Nations there. And we should remember those who live with their loss.

    I’m remembering the Haitian Minister of Finance who came to work the day after losing his ten-year-old son. And the artist who was displaying his paintings on the street just a few days after he lost his wife and children. They radiated courage and determination, saying that making a new beginning was the best way to honor their loved ones.

    Working in Haiti, for the U.N. and as a private citizen, is one of the great honors of my life. I have found the people to be creative, hardworking, brave, and persistent.

    They have not often had the government the people deserve, but that does not make them the country the president described. I can say the same about other nations in Central America and Africa swept up in his epithet.

    We should do what we can to help them reach their full potential, and we should be grateful for the immense contributions made by immigrants from Haiti—and other nations—to America. They are doctors and nurses, entrepreneurs and elected officials, workers and farmers—they and their homelands deserve our respect and gratitude.

    On this day, we remember Haiti. They have come a long way in 8 years, but much work remains and I still believe in the Haitian people.
     
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