Exclusive-FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated-sources

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    LINK: HMKP-117-GO00-20210902-SD004.pdf (house.gov)

    A few things that should be pointed out:

    For those claiming that this was in insurrection:

    A rebellion, or rising of citizens or subjects in resistance to their government. See INSURGENT.Insurrection shall consist in any combined resistance to the lawful authority of the state, with intent to the denial thereof, when the same is manifested, or intended to be manifested, by acts of violence. Code Ga. 1882,

    LINK: What is INSURRECTION? definition of INSURRECTION (Black's Law Dictionary) (thelawdictionary.org)

    Can you still honestly call it an insurrection? The FBI has not found any evidence that there was a plan to stop Biden from being certified as President. The vast majority of people that rioted that day were one off's. The few that did make plans (proud boys and oath keepers) only made plans as far as entering the building, nothing more. And those are being charged with conspiracy to commit crimes charges for that planning. But not insurrection related charges because they made no plans to stop the certification process. No one planned to stop any certification process. And you'll note that part of the definition of insurrection, according to Black's Law, is "with intent". Meaning that there had to have been a plan to stop the certification of Joe Biden as President. But there was none. As such this was NOT an insurrection. A riot, most definitely. But not an insurrection.

    And for the record, I fully support charges against these rioters for what they did. And frankly I wouldn't mind if they were given the maximum penalty for it.

    Additionally many wanted Trump charged with inciting an insurrection. He won't be. Full stop. As shown neither him, or any of his allies, helped plan an insurrection...or any violence for that matter. But don't worry, there is still a possibility of getting him for inciting violence, slim though it may be. The reason that he won't be is simple. Courts require that any inciting of violence must be intended. It also requires a sort of "roadmap" to cause immediate harm.

    LINK: Criminal Speech: Inciting a Riot or Violence | CriminalDefenseLawyer.com
    LINK: Brandenburg v. Ohio | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
    Even NBC admits that it would be difficult to convict Trump in a court of law:
    LINK: Trump's speech is probably defensible in every court — except, perhaps, the Senate (nbcnews.com)

    No matter which way you roll the dice. There was no insurrection on January 6, 2021. A riot yes. Insurrection, no.
     
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    the fbi found scant evidence that the army pf god was responsible for the olympic bombing. or that the anthrax letters were mailed by . well. anyone, or that the saudis had anything to do with 9/11. the fbi is still pre occupied with "eco terrorists" who have never killed anyone while ignoring "sovereign citizens" who are the #1 killer of police in the usa.

    after further review. the preponderance of "eco terrorists" and animal enthusiasts on the 10 most wanted list appears to have been replaced by drug traffickers. still no sovereign citizens or militia types or russian gangsters.
     
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    Holy cow! Is this a quote from Biden or a remix of Joey and Pelosi most memorial moments :wierdface:
     
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    Yeah, that selfie insurrection "investigation" takes my mind off the fact that each weekly trip to the stores leaves me with less money in my pockets than the previous trip.....seems to be a common theme whenever Democrats are in charge.
     
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    No one uses the word "insurrection" to describe the events of January 6th, except propagandists and those gullible enough, or nefarious enough, to repeat the propaganda as truth.
     
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    Lol. The #1 killer of police here is their own reckless driving. Evidence that they, themselves, are the sovereign citizens; people who believe the laws don't apply to them.
     
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    Damn, you actually found relevance in all that letter salad.. I bet you're just taking a wild guess huh ;)
     
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    No, I think it is true. The #1 killer of police are traffic accidents, or at least were at one time. So called "sovereign citizens" are the least of their worries.
     
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    LINK: Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2021 (odmp.org)

    According to this the number 1 for this year would be having something to do with vehicles at 47. (not counting covid*) Those related to guns would be second place at 46. If you count covid then...well...its obvious.
     
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    I take it from all this gibberish that you can't dispute the OP? Thanks for your input....I guess....(not really)
     
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    I'm not sure "riot" would describe it accurately.

    The best might be "another FBI sting operation".
     
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    More inconvenient truth: The DOJ/FBI/NSA/CIA/DIA and the rest of the federal alphabet knew that even before 1/6/21. This is the age of surveillance.

    “Intelligence” is best understood as a sequential process, which embraces the selection of the subject (an organization or individual) for surveillance, techniques, used in monitoring the subject or target, the processing and retention of information collected (files and dossiers), and it's evaluation in the light of the strategic purpose the intelligence mission. Intelligence also includes an activist or aggressive aspect, specifically designed to damage or harass a target. But whether formally classified as passive data collection or aggressive intelligence, the intelligence function is dominated by a punitive or prescriptive purpose. Even the selection of a target embodies a judgment of defiance from the dominant political culture.”
    THE AGE OF SURVEILLANCE, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980. p. 3.
     

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