Facebook temporarily allows posts on Ukraine war calling for violence against 'Russian invaders'

Not sure of their terms of service, maybe they are having trouble moderating with all the emotions and wide range of conflicting positions involving the war in Ukraine. From what I can tell this is a regional policy? Or only for specific countries, let me know if im getting that wrong.

Interesting topic as Meta recently was having problems with Trump, the US right and censorship, and are having current censorship issues with pro Russian content providers on twitter.

I find it odd they would allow calls for the death of a countries leader, even under the circumstance it seems extreme it is not allowed for any leader except for Putin and Lukashenko.

They seems to be fluid on their policies depending on the political situation.

 

They just follow popular trends.
Calling for killing of Russian troops, Pootin and Luka is popular now.

 

Its a sketchy area because its technically against their terms of service, thus the temporary modification. Lots of spotty action in Armenia for instance, if conflict gets heated again do they modify their terms at some point to allow calls for death of one of their leaders but bans for the call of other? At what point, and for the US right it has already happened, are they considered biased or propaganda in a way if they continue to modify their terms based seemingly on political ideology.

 

Social media are very biased.
It became apparent to everyone who was willing to see it in 2020.
But, in this scenario, I don’t mind it, as it magnifies the outrage over Russian actions in Ukraine. This is the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of a moment.

 

I also did not get to the bottom before I posted, they should probably stay away from this issue. Don't know why they want to change policy on that if it was prohibited, they use to much Nazi imagery. Like I said it seems sketchy, especially when you consider future or current conflicts around the world.

 

Social media is biased among users, but the platform has terms of service to define what levels you can take that bias to. I did not mind Twitter eventually kicking off or harassing Trump because he broke terms of service, it is their platform. I might have had a different opinion on that matter if they were changing or manipulating their terms of service to do so. Will this be a problem in future domestic and international issues and conflicts?

 

I think social media will always be fluid like that.

 

????Facebook has many double standards.

 

Same as Twitter....even more so it seems.

 

Kind of late to complain about Frankenstein’s monster now. We created it.

You can’t expect to give a platform the most power to influence individuals and societies that has ever existed and not have it be used to do so.

None of these social media companies exist to provide fair and equitable platforms. They exist to influence you and they will violate or change whatever policies needed to do so.

 

This was to be expected in the fascist state of the USA.
It was the same in Nazi Germany.
Remember, in Germany, all the most terrible crimes were committed by private individuals and businesses with the support of the vast majority of the population.
Gas chambers were invented by private individuals, the conveyor for camp crematoria, too. Zyklon "B" was supplied to the camp by two private companies: Tesch & Stabenow and Degesch, who failed to prove after the war that they did not know the purpose of the gas.
When the Germans announced a tender for the construction of crematoria for the Auschwitz camps, there was a stampede among private firms - they wanted to get a contract. J. A. Topf & Söhne received an order for five body-incinerators at Auschwitz and complained that this was not enough: they could have ordered more. Everything that was created in Germany for the mass destruction of people was invented and made by businessmen. They tried so hard to get government money that they were constantly coming up with improvements.
It is known that a private German company from Danzig developed a cauldron for making soap from human fat. Didier-Werke invented the fork on pistons for feeding corpses into the oven. German business also competed for the right to exploit camp prisoners. Private factories were built around the death camps, the competition was fierce, the IG Farben concerns even had their own “security service” to disperse competitors: there were so many who wanted to get prisoners from Auschwitz to work.
And today the Jew Zuckerberg is the successor and admirer of fascist politics. And I'm sure he would gladly justify any genocide.

 

I love it how Russian fascists, in their “anti-nazi” quest, are putting their antisemitism on full display.

 

Russia opens criminal case against Meta following temporary hate speech policy change

By Clare Duffy, CNN Business
Updated 2:18 PM ET, Fri March 11, 2022

New York (CNN Business)Russia's Investigative Committee has opened a criminal case against Facebook parent company Meta Platforms accusing the company's employees of "illegal calls for murder and violence" against Russian citizens, according to a statement the committee published Friday.

... https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/tech/meta-policy-change-russia-investigation/index.html​

Have they got a case? I dunno. Seems kind of hypocrtical to raise a fuss about this while they are actually murdering and committing violence in Ukraine.

 

It's not "murder& violence" in Ukraine...it's a "special operation"?

 

And what we're doing in response is not sanctions, but a "special economic operation" to help Russia

 

It's a joke that people still think Facebook has "rules". The only rule is that Zuckerberg either agrees with the content, or it doesn't conflict with his interests.

 

Indeed, a special economic operation that will devastate, and perhaps collapse poor people's economies around the world.

 

except for that random russian citizens aren't murdering ukrainians and do not deserve to be the target of violent racism????

 

I have to assume that they are not allowing advocating such violence outside of the context of Ukraine specifically.

 

So...I guess Russias economy is a prime candidate for destabilization then?

 

Nah!
It’s socially acceptable to kill Russian soldiers, Pootin, and Lukashenko. As for the rest - time will tell.

 

The spine of Russian economy has already been severed. It’s starting to collapse.

 

that's quite the wild assumption to make

 

I may be able to fill in that gap. When people feel "silenced" they resort to desperate measures and don't always think clearly about the cause or the effect. It's simply less dangerous to allow people to vent and feel a bit satiated than to censor and/or ban them adding to their anger and frustration.

I don't belong to any of those sites but I'm confident in saying that Putin and Zelensky have both received numerous death threats since Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. The authorities simply don't have time or manpower to check in on every crackpot that voices disdain and consequences. They should be focused on the credible threats and the truly unhinged people and let the people a bit more "grounded", albeit having some <negative emotion> spew that for a bit. That approach is also beneficial for the authorities to locate the *real* threats.

 

Well, I have to assume that these policies are not insane.

Anyway, I'm much more concerned about Russia's military bombing Ukrainian cities.