Far right vs. Far left: who is more dangerous?

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Far right or far left, who's more dangerous?

  1. The far left

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  2. The far right

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  3. The fence sitters

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  1. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Who is charged with trying to eliminate democracy?
     
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    I believe that a recent video by the brilliant Mr. Jim Rickards does a good job of proving that the far left are the most dangerous at this time.


     
  3. notme

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    The point stands about all BLM protests were totally peaceful. Your idea that they were not are totally over exaggerated, lies, with a racist agenda. At worst, a building is burned down in a left wing right. This doesn't compare well with what the right wing does at worst. And so it's obvious that the far right pose a far greater threat.
     
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    How about you go tell me how cozy left wing politicians are with those who are burning down buildings vs how cozy right wing politicians are with those who attack the Capitol. Because as far as I know, no person burning down a building yelled Go Biden or held pro Biden slogan signs or something of that nature. We all saw a hell of a lot of Trump supporters in the Capitol going for a coup.
     
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    Totally peaceful? Ridiculous!
     
  6. notme

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    About all, yes. I sourced it. And you've not debunked it.
     
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    Yes, they traded conservative principles for populist ones and now they'll defend and justify whatever their political leaders tell them to defend, including things conservatives would oppose.

    As for BLM, its really not a political movement, and their riots were not about politics, like Jan-6 was.
     
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    Arryana Presley and some other malcontent come pretty close, I think.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sparks-anger-calling-unrest-streets-USPS.html

    But anyway, I didn't mount any defense of the Jan. 6 riot so I don't know what you're talking about.

    What I do think is that the Left keeps wailing about an attack on democracy when that is not what any of the rioters was seeking to end. They honestly believed the election had been stolen by democrats; that's different, though mistaken, from supporting a change from a constitutional republic to a monarchy or theocracy or fascism or communism.
     
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    Aha. So you think "unrest in the streets" is somehow on the same level of Trump paying his lawyer to yell out to go for a "trial by combat" or something?
    Anybody in it's right mind would say that it's not in the same ballpark.

    70% of the GOP voters still believe the elections were stolen. It's obvious that they were fanatically indoctrinated by politicians who spewed this nonsense.
    This was done deliberately, and wasn't a mistake.
     
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    That's nice, but I didn't ask any of that. I asked whether the rioters envisioned some new form of government, something other than the democracy they supposedly were attacking.

    And yes, to answer your question, Aryanna Pressley is worse than Trump. This "combat" business is metaphor, "unrest in the streets" is not metaphor. She's clearly talking about something other than peacefully making our voices heard, which was what Trump called for.

    I make no excuse for Giuliani's trial by combat metaphor, which was irresponsible at best, though harmless, but please be careful about telling me I'm not in my right mind. We have rules.
     
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    Going for installing a "politician" who didn't got voted in, is going for installing a dictatorship at best.
    And since it's a far right clique who did that, you could say it would have been a fascist dictatorship.


    Uh no. At no point is unrest in the streets a call for civil unrest or civil disorder. That doesn't even necessary be a riot. Blocking streets and highways is a perfectly peaceful way of such an unrest.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disorder

    While Trump paid his lawyer to yell at his crowed to have a trial by combat, right after Trump told them to fight for the country or lose it.
    You can say all you want how often Trump said it had to be peaceful, he also said and promoted violence at the same time.
    I do recall he expressed his love for the most violent people in the end, and said he would pardon the lot of them as well.

    You're free to mention where Pressley expressed her love for the people who burned down stores, and would pardon them if she could.
     
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    Yes, you listen to the CNN reporter who says it’s a peaceful protest while buildings are burning in the background. We will never agree so just move on.
     
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    The far left is numerically insignificant.

    The far right is most of the GOP.

    Hence, the far right is dangerous, the far left is a joke.

    The Democrats are just mildly right wing, so they don't count as far-right. Anyone who says the Democrats are far left can't be taken seriously on any topic, given their level of delusion.
     
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    Joe Biden is the most dangerous person in the world right now
     
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    The far left has media support. The Bully Pulpit.
     
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    Git outa here!
     
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    The far left is far from insignificant in numbers. They have a steady chunk of representation in Congress. It’s called “The Squad” and “The Congressional Black Caucus.” They have enough pull in San Francisco to have a commission that now calling for Black reparations that come to millions of dollars per person. And there are the black clothed thugs, called ANTIFA, which insignificant until they crack you on the head, shoot at a police officer, break store windows or set buildings on fire. They were quite active during the summer of 2020, but the left has short memories, except about January 6. That date will live in infamy for them like December 7, 1941.
     
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    So you're saying you can't be taken seriously on any topic. Shrieking out weird ANTIFA fantasies tells everyone that instantly.

    Far right brownshirt thugs set the nation on fire, not ANTIFA. Not to mention the cop murdering your pals did, in their attempts to start a race war. Take responsiblity for what your side did.
     
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    Ditto every POTUS.
     
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    What is the difference between Far right brownshirt thugs and Far Left Red/Pink thugs?
     
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    1-6 was the first Right wing disturbance and by that time all the best places had been burned down during the Liberals summer of love.
     
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    Let’s get real. Sure there are wackos on both ends of the spectrum.

    The “left” supposedly had BLM and antifa. BLM was a reaction to the years of police abuse of POC. It was a national uprising occurring in every major city that was bipartisan in that it was protesting both Republican and Democrat run police departments and was 93% peaceful. The other right-wing boogeymen were the antifa who were young hot heads looking for a fight and wanting to vandalize, giving the protests a bad name, whose only real legacy was giving the right a talking point. There was looting committed by opportunistic thieves taking advantage of the lack of police presence. In my city the looting was done blocks away during the protests.

    Then there is the right. The FBI says right-wing groups are the greatest terrorism threat. Militias arming themselves and training for what? A race war? To fight the government? Boogaloo boys hunting police and violently disrupting protests. Attempting to kidnap a governor. Damaging power stations. Attempting to overturn a presidential election. Committing seditious conspiracy….
    There have been 450 murders in the US by political extremists. 75% have been by right-wing extremists, 20% by Islamic extremists and 4% by left-wing extremists. Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists.

    If, on balance, if you think the left is the greatest threat you are hopelessly partisan.
     
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    And if I thought the Right was the biggest threat I would be.....?
     
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    A rational human being.
     
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    And wonderfully non partisan of course.
     

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