Fast-food protesters cuffed at higher-pay rallies

Economics isn't about making statements like this. It should be about making sure that no matter how far someone has fallen they can always crawl back out. Expecting someone to work 80 hours a week just to survive is putting them in a situation where they cannot crawl out of.

We should not be living in a country where the only way to do well in it is to hit all the good points before turning 18. Screw up in your first 18 years of life and you could find your self permanently screwed in an endless welfare check to welfare check cycle.

If you're still flipping burgers at the age of 30 it's almost impossible to improve your life at that point. And you can say "Well if they're flipping burgers at that age then they probably deserve it." But you have no idea what that person's life is like. You have no idea why they are where they are. And you have no idea the places they could go with support.

An economic system that makes sure that everyone at least has access to the minimum needs is an economy that will be strong in innovation and extremely competitive globally.

 

One makes choices in life and are responsible for those choices. If you want to support them, give them your money.

 

Yep, I have four valuable skills and can survive no matter what happens to the economy. I got them by putting in the effort. None of them can be shipped overseas or replaced by robots.

 

Poor life choices are NOT MY PROBLEM

 

Progressives make them your problem along with absolving them of responsibility for their own choices.

 

That's because of the types of jobs we have...............welcome to consumer nation...........

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Sorry..........this is nothing but emotional .................

 

BTW 1969 Minimum rate wages 1.60 $
a hr
2014 day rate would be $10.39
http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm​

 

Instead of giving welfare to the worthless who don't care about their lives, why don't we start using it as a kind of perk system for those that are honestly struggling while working a minimum wage job, I'd have no problem with that.

 

What skills are they? Seems pretty far fetched a person from India could not get the same education or be trained to aquire those skills you have and do it for cheaper because their cost of living is less.

 

A robot would get it right. It also wouldn't drop it on the ground then put it on a plate, stick it's dick in it or other immature acts.

 

I seriously think there is a huge part of our society that has been fooled into thinking the robber barron days of the 1800's where children worked in sweatshops for 80 hours a week were the heyday of this country.

How do you think that evolved into the great middle class of America over the following 60 years? Labor laws, like a 40 hour work week and minimum wage.

The problem with this country is that globalization has worked against us. Going back to the fundamentals, when the farmer grows corn and the backsmith shoes horses, and they trade, they are both better off. But if you just buy from others, and don't produce anything yourself, you go broke. America has a massive trade deficit, and it is sucking the jobs out of this country, which is the equivalent of us going broke.... If we don't have equal trade, we our shipping our wealth out of this country and destroying the jobs that create it.

The right wing concept that the lack of any rules, that pure laisez faire economics is an ideal is very wrong. Free markets work, but they work when there are constraints, like minimum wage. Just imagine a NFL football game,,, if they eliminated all the rules, would that make the game better, or increase the competition... there can be plenty of competition, and still have rules of the game. Most of the rules make the game better, not worse. Sure there are stupid rules, like excessive celebration or banning spiking the ball, but generally the rules improve the game. The same is true for capitalistic markets, setting minimum wage, OSHA regulations, work week regulations, and so forth improve the results of capitalism for everyone, does not destroy it, but makes it work for the population, rather than for the corporation.... I am not saying corporations are evil at all. I am just saying they will make the most of the rules, just like all of us do.... the responsibility is for the government to make rules for the people and by the people, rather than for the corporations and by the corporations.

 

Not good that those lines are starting to touch.

 

Why? Are you not a fan of capitalism? Would you prefer socialism? Evidence shows it doesn't work. I think we can find better ways to solve our problems rather than an authoritarian government dictating prices and wages.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics

 

Automation is going to cost a lot of jobs. It's not a bad thing, but we are going to have to deal with people who simply cannot find work. We are already dealing with that now, but it's going to get much worse. We're going to have to find money from somewhere.

 

Minimum wage has nothing to do with the free market and is the result of government force. You also propose a number of strawman arguments. The greatest wealth growth occurred when the markets were more free. The following government redistribution regulations hobbled growth.

Of course free markets require constraints but the constraints are against things such as monopoly, fraud, and illegal force. All other regulations are government force and make the market less free and less dynamic so growth suffers.

 

There is another issue if your raise the minimum wage won't you be making the Underground Economy FAR larger if one is out of work and a job can bring in cash income and you don't NEED a specialized license who cares if your charging less your getting untaxed income with no burden of licenses, permits or other barriers. New York City has this now as one fact the taxes and permits are crippling so no one cares if it means working and making money or not.

 

There is a perk system built into to our economy already. Make yourself a better employee and you will get paid more money. I didn't move up in the world because government was offering me a perk it was because I earned my perks.

 

I call on factories including the auto industry which is one of the biggest users of robots. They are begging for people qualified to work on robots. We don't have to find the money, they can create it by working on robots that produce goods. They can create it by working on the assembly lines which are still labor intensive. People prefer to have things handed to them and will certainly choose that over work.

 

You have to give incentives to a sheeple, we must take from the liberal playbook.

Unless Anarchy is declared, that has to be the starting step.

 

A robot can do the job of multiples of men. You need someone to repair them yes but you are cutting down on the amount of people needed to work in that factory. Take Amazons automated warehouses; you need no forklift/pallet jack drivers, you just need a few people to fix the bots when they break. That's probably 10 people rather than 100. The other 90 are going to need to find work elsewhere or have another mean of getting income. This will happen as automation increases. Unless another industry that requires manpower comes out, we will end up with people who simply cannot get jobs. It will require social change as automation increases.

 

they already don't exist. they have nothing to offer economically. they will simply be a black hole for welfare dollars.

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welfare was originally created for war widows and then exploded under democrat leadership

 

All made bad choices... Choices have consequences. Boo (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hoo.

 

Why are teen parents not living at home? Arent what ifs fun?

 

A burger bot was clocked at 360 burgers an hour.

goodbye burger flippers.

I can't wait until I go into a fast food joint and the only human there is an electrical engineer.

 

In a perfect world I would agree in part to much of what you just said...but it isn't a perfect world and I personally believe one of, if not, the biggest issue with our public welfare systems(s) is severe corruption. Too many people take advantage of it and are gaming the system and getting away with it.

If what you say is true, and these people who make bad decisions early in life were in fact working 80+ hours a week, I might agree more, but the problem is, they're not. Some might be, and you can bet the ones who do are the ones who will succeed and make it, but a vast majority are not working 80 hour weeks...a good chunk aren't even working at all. As I said before, I know people in this category who have made it...but I also know plenty who don't...and don't care. They'll collect whatever assistance they can get, work part time flipping burgers (and do it poorly). Why bust their asses to work 60, 80 or more hours a week to try to get ahead when they can loaf around and collect free (*)(*)(*)(*).

I think "work" is apparently against human nature because I see far too many who work hard to avoid it. Too many that want to be lazy, suck up whatever they can get and then (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about not having anything. This mentality is common in early teenage kids (my own included). They are "taken care of" by mom and dad all their lives, but in a relatively short period of a few years have to transition to being responsible...and they just don't like it. Some adjust and begin doing it (if mom and dad guide them properly), but apparently many don't, so we see a lot of young adults with the mind set we see today. They want it all, but they don't want to work for it. They expect it to be handed to them.

1. Fix our assistance programs, do a much better job at ensuring those who qualify and need it are the ones who actually get it...too many scammers out there.

2. Actually teach our kids that there are consequences for choices. We're too caught up with all this legal wrangling over people or groups wanting to be able to do whatever it is they want. Our kids are learning that they can just do whatever they feel and it's ok.

3. Hold people accountable, stop blaming anything and everything for their woes.

As for minimum wage....I've said it before and I'll say it again...only 2.5% of ALL hourly wage earners actually make minimum wage. McDonald's in my area starts people at $8.35 an hour. A local gas/convenience/food store starts their workers at $10 an hour. Hell, even Home Depot will start you at $9+ an hour, or better.