Fast Food workers declare minimum wage "unlivable"

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  1. popeye_doyle

    popeye_doyle New Member

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    I do not care what you have. Deal with the fact that many businesses will cut employees if the minimum wage is increased. And every business is different. In the food industry, margin is smaller. Everyone's rent and other bill are different.

    Some fast food businesses pay more than the minimum. By-and-large the industry dictates the prevailing wage which is the minimum wage.
     
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    Odd that that scream has went out EVERY time a minimum wage hike is planned, yet never comes true. McDonalds needs so many employees per restaurant, no matter at what pay. Of course they PREFER to pay as little as possible.

    They love that they are able to pay full time employees less than the poverty level. I assure you.

    As I said before McD has this all figured out to the PENNY. They do not employ one single "extra" employee at their store. McD corporate has spent years designing their system. They have a formula that tells them exactly how many customers a particular store should see per day based on traffic patterns and from that formula they know exactly how many employees they need to be able to service those customers in a certain time frame while maintaining standards of cleanliness , etc etc.

    They in effect have no bodies to spare, and would simply have to absorb the extra say $80K a year in costs.

    Some do , the vast majority do not.
     
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    So your reason why workers should not get raises based on inflation - is based on business and not on workers. Oh, I wasn't just talking about minimum wage.

    Except that I didn't mention minimum wage.

    Not what I said. I have said raising the minimum wage so that 40.28% of workers can make $20,000 will distribute the wealth better.

    No, we have enough of THOSE people. We call them taxi medalion holders, heritage investors and capital gains retirees.


    So you really ignore what I say.
     
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    I think every fast food worker should call in sick all together and cost the greedy employer as much money as possible. After all, with such little pay, they have nothing to lose really, and it feels good. It's not like those jobs are hard to find and if you don't like it, you can always quit. Right? Why should anybody worry about treating anybody with any consideration? I don't recommend it. (it's not profitable).
     
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    All workers don't deserve inflation increases. See, you guys dump on the unskilled workers so much that you willing ignore what I said. Welcome to the economy of the last 30 years.
     
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    They are at this point just arguing to be arguing.

    The idea that a guy making $100K a year needs a raise if we bump min wage up $2 an hour is laughable at best.
     
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    Interesting. How many of the 1.7 million make minimum wages. Even I would not claim everyone at McD's works for minimum wage. Anyway, McD's profits have nothing to do with minimum wage hikes. The only thing that affects their profits is low sales and/or less franchises. The franchises pay minimum wages. McD just tries to tell workers how they can live on the pittance.
     
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    Stop with the facts, already. The right ignores facts or they wouldn't be able to post their garbage.
     
  9. bomac

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    It doesn't explain why the same job is worth less today than it was worth 40 years ago. And 40.28% of all wage earners are making less than $20,000.
     
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    I don't care what you say. Deal with the facts. 40.28% of wage earners make less than $20,000.
     
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    "Tremendous value?"

    Taxcutter says;
    Oil and natural gas wells bring in a lot of revenue. So even if drilled by morons their work is valuable.
     
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    "Welcome to the economy of the last 30 years."

    Taxcutter says:
    Yes. Strangled by regulations, taxation, and litigation. It has been unable to keep up with foreign competitors.
     
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    First of all, learn to use the quote function.

    Second of all, McD has no foreign competition. LOL
     
  14. Taxcutter

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    "First of all, learn to use the quote function."

    Taxcutter says;
    No dice. I select what I want to respond to and separate the nugget from virtual filibusters.
     
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    You'll notice, I accomplished the same while still retaining the quote so that you can easily distinguish your words from mine......
     
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    And what would happen if the law said that you had to pay your employees $15/hour instead of the meager wages you currently stick them with? What would you do?
     
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    I'm not sure what business he is in but $11.50 an hour is well over the minimum wage and competitive with food service, retail and call center employment. I suspect also if they asked for a 25 cent raise to help pay to get Exchange medical care [$10 a week] he would consider it. In fact I might suggest he look into health care options and see if he could help with enough of a raise to at least cover some of the costs.
     
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    Oh, yes, using extremes might make your argument seem reasonable. Too bad that Cornhog and I have not used extremes for our arguments. What does that tell you, Tomfoolery?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Extremes? What extremes? I simply asked him what he would do if his labor costs went up by the same percentage that he was calling for in fast food franchises. Now scurry along, child.
     
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    Mkay...has nothing to do with my question...
     
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    See, as a good employer, he was not screwing his workers to make more profits. The extreme is that you want HIM to pay more because others are screwing their employees. He uses cost of living and comparisons to past wages for the minimum wage jobs. You are using an extreme with no foundation.

    Now scurry along, child.
     
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    YOU said he paid poor wages in fact its well over the minimum wage and matches many other jobs, I was noting that, which you brought up.
     
  23. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Poor wages" is relative, my friend. Surely you realize that? The wages that he pays his employees for a family bread provider puts them at or below the poverty line. Relative.

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    How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you know whether he is a "good employer" or not? Is he your boyfriend or something? Let him speak for himself, kid. You clearly don't even know what my point is; you're just trying to shout me down with your "extreme" nonsense.
     
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    So you are real upset that 40.28% (maybe more) wage earners make less than that. Are you out there on the front lines fighting for that minimum wages increase?
     
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    Yes, he is. You have a problem with that?
     
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