Fast Food Workers Go On Strike For Higher Pay From The Business Men

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  1. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You act as if the profits of a McDonald's franchise in Dubuque, Iowa helps reimburse a failing McDonald's franchise in Paris, France.
     
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    and these fools at MSNBC make fun of it

    [video=youtube;AEkupBSeY00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkupBSeY00[/video]
     
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    This is pretty uninformed. First off. you took the prior's numbers out of context, but more importantly, those are not a basis for calculating the cost of a wage increase.

    The payroll cost for a typical McD's will vary by volume. But the industry standard is approximately 18-24%, where 14-20% is for hourly staff. The average McD's meal is about $4.75. Which means that the hourly payroll cost component of each meal is in the range of $0.66 to 0.95 per meal (14-18% of the average meal cost). Assuming that the number of meals sold did not change with a price increase, and that only hourly staff had their wages doubled, the increase in price per meal would be mid-range of those two, or about $0.80 per meal sold. About a 17-18% price increase.

    The average McDonald's operates at a 5-10% profit per unit. Without these huge price increases, to increase hourly wages by double would currently eat up 2-3 times the total profit per unit. My numbers are only for the hourly employees actually working in the store. Were the wages of suppliers to go up as well, (for instance, food cost is about 27% of the meal cost) then I would estimate another 50% rise in per-meal price, to about $1.20

    I spent over 15 years in fast food, to include being a franchisee. Different chain is all.
     
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    I would move to a far more tax friendly state myself, but unemployment is still 10.5% so houses aren't moving unless you sell cheap to an investor. Since my house is a prop 13 house AND it's paid off, I'm better off where I am for now.
     
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    Good point, McDonald's owners should run the striking workers through eVerify. Then fire the ones who don't make it.
     
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    Of course they need higher wages. The central bank has been inflating the money supply and causing prices to increase since 1913 - people ALWAYS need a raise because of larcenous inflationary policies! Inflation, in conjunction with the onerous costs of regulation and taxation, serve to reduce relative living standards for the poorest and least skilled in our society. The state is to blame for this, every bit of it!

    This doesn't even factor in the effect that subsidies have on price levels. For example, education and healthcare, two of the most heavily subsidized sectors of our economy, are going through insane inflation precisely because subsidies increase demand. Subsidies, taxes, regulations, and inflation are the reason why these working class folk need and demand higher wages! Their relative standard of living is being systemically eroded by the state. The problem is they are too uneducated (kept purposely so by the state) to realize this, ergo they blame the business owner instead of the criminals in DC.
     
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    you beat me to it.... FDR programs did NOTHING for the Great Depression..... WWII ended the great depression.



    Beyond that.... Any job that a pimple-faced, squeaky voiced teenager can do is not worth $15/hour. And if you are trying to make a 'career' out of a job where you can be replaced by a 16 y.o..... YOU.HAVE.FAILED.IN.LIFE.....
     
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    To those who think fast food is supposed to be a career for anyone other than the manager, you failed in life. Nt all jobs should be paid a living wage, since they were never designed to fully support a person, especially when the skill level is so low.

    If you can't qualify for anything other than flipping burgers, don't get mad at the owners. Get mad at yourself for being so ignorant. It's supposed to be part time and temporary.
     
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    MSNBC was bringing attention to it, the conservatives on the panel were making fun of it.

    The police charged the lady for nothing, if you don't get a refund at the Macdonalds for not having your order right that's theft, why did she have to get arrested?

    A dollar means more to the poor than the rich who could simply walk away and tell them to keep it, this was despicable.
     
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    Fast Food workers provide a valuable service, they did not " fail at life ".

    What a heinous statement, food service is a hard industry to make it in and these people are entitled to higher pay than what their getting.

    Think of it this way, picture a world without fast food and imagine how miserable that would be. Then thank the fast food worker for handing you the Mcdouble and coke after a long hard day.

    Jesus Christ man.
     
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    Perhaps they could compromise. Those in the fast food industry who wish to advance ( as much as it is possible), should have some sort of incentive, like pay raises and bonuses for outstanding customer service.
    Those who just want to exist should remain at base pay.
     
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    Why should they care? Pay minimum wage and expect minimum work. Pay $15 an hour and you will attract workers who do care. It's the owners who aren't earners. They shouldn't expect a jackpot just for putting up the money. Investment is static, work is dynamic. It is the workers who create the value of the investment.
     
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    The bootlickers and Heirheads think the rest of us are worthless. As long as they control wages, they will pay us what they think we are worth and somehow claim that is our unbiased market value.
     
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    Mamas' Boys who suck their thumbs in college, working without pay and living like 15-year-olds because they are afraid to grow up, don't deserve to be rewarded for such brown-nosing. Sorry, but that is not the American Way. If your ruling classes think so much of that choice, they should tell their own children to go to college without an allowance. Fat chance of the fatcats ever telling their fatkittens what they tell the rest of us to do.
     
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    Or taken out of the excessive profits of the owner. Don't play into the Capitaliban's propaganda. They always try to make the consumers feel like the victims of the unions.
     
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    A bootlicker has a bitter, vindictive desire to punish all those who didn't humiliate themselves like he did. Classic case of masochists becoming sadists. Somehow seeing these people live miserably makes up for the poor moral choices he made. He knows he's always been a pathetic brown-nose, but seeing those who refused to do that get hurt alleviates the pain he feels echoing in his hollow guts. Truly deserving successes are mellow about the less fortunate. That's why they tip well to those the bootlickers would spit at.
     
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    You're making the idiotic assumption that all fast food workers make minimum wage.
     
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    are you claiming they make LESS than min wage, or more.

    When I was 16, I started of .25 more than minimum wage

    so yes, most fast food places don't make min. wage. But it's usually considered a "minimum waged job" since it's entry level
     
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    There is no advancement in fast food, the managers don't make 15 dollars an hour. They make a little more than minimum wage.

    The video shown in one of the examples of this thread depict a Manager at Macdonalds with poor customer service. She did not want to give a refund to a customer who specified that she wanted Chicken Macnuggets, and not a Macdouble.

    It escalated to a point where authorities were called, and instead of punishing the rich business owner the poor patron was summoned to court. Another example of the rich getting the better of the poor.
     
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    The average sales volume per McDonalds Franchise in 2008 was $2.3 million per year, per the 2009 McDonalds FDD Franchise Disclosure Document. The highest performer in 2008 was 9.5 million. The lowest had sales of $491,000. Average profit margin per Franchise runs about 10% of sales per Mr. Franchise of Franchise Foundations, a Professional Corp.


    see http://www.franchisefoundations.com/mcdonaldsfranchise.html
     
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    Single mom of course.
     
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    I thought I heard it all, but finding a way to defend a person who calls 911 over not getting her chicken mcnuggetts..... but you did. How DARE the owner of a franchise expect to make money in a business he owns.


    I will agree with the manager. A career in Fast food management is just 1 step above a person flipping the burgers. I remember, when I was 19, in college, working the spring break rush. I was making 5.25 and hour and working 50 hours a week. I made around 500-600 biweekly. Then I was "promoted" to management. I was salary. The first bi-weekly check I made was 475.00 AND i worked 70 hours that week.


    Anyways, I ended up quitting and eventually, a buddy of mine convinced me to come back as "crew" (which was fine by me at the time) and I got a payraise. A month of that, and the owner came back to me and asked what I wanted to come back into management. I told him. I want to be paid by the hour, not salary. He offered me $8.00 hour and in 1995 money, I was big ballin.

    I went back to 70 hour weeks, and my first paycheck was 996.00 takehome. Other managers got wind of this and were pissed, but it was my deal I made.

    Anyways... I wasn't EVER gonna get another raise, and I wasn't going to take a paycut in order to become a store manager. So yes, advancement is VERY limited

    In all my dealings with resturaunts, and serving, etc.... I find the cheaper the food, the bigger the PITA the customer is. Dealing with customers like the lady in the video that called 911 over the incident does not surprise me AT ALL.

    I don't know why the manager (probably an asst. manager since it was the graveyard shift) didn't just refund the money, but I can attest, sometimes, you just get tired of dealing with the sh*t from sh*theads. The customer that night was probably dumb-ass customer #42 that night alone.
     
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    All that does is drive up inflation so that eventually $15/hour is the same that $7.50/hour was.
     
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    i wish them the best of luck-they're going to need it. people won't pay $8 to stand in line for a hamburger on a daily basis, and 2/3 of them will be out on their asses.

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    then more people are living a minium wage lifestyle.
     
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