FBI's Strzok and Page spoke of 'secret society' after Trump election,

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  1. Boilermaker55

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    Do your best goose stepping for "the gropenfhuerer."
    Nothing but all pure conjecture on your part, no evidence no proof.
    Follow in line like a nice little goose stepping nazi.

     
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    No deflect at all. it is a parallel assessment.
    To bad you cannot dispute the fact that the lying pile of dog excrement in the whitehouse is given a free pass by all the *********s.


     
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    So says the good little union warped proletariat. :eek:
     
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    Still goose stepping I see. Keep it up!
    "the gropenfhuerer" loves little nazi's like you.
    [​IMG]

     
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    Playing the Nazi card while suffering a TDS episode is deflection. Referencing Nazi's at all shows no understanding of history and is intellectually dishonest at every level. That’s not in dispute. Own it.
     
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    a little late now to complain about the surveilance. you and ilk did this to yourselves and only have yourselves to blame. after 9/11 every rwer lauded the patriot act and the nsa wiretapping.

    it is your bed, now you have to lie in it :)
     
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    what comes around goes around, hey don't complain when Trump starts spying
     
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    my money is on he is already doing it :)
     
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    I know I would, wouldn't think twice.
     
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    fyi, check my posts, i was against the unchecked surveilance with bush jr, obama and now trump.
     
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    That's a good thing. I'm glad to hear that. Everyone no matter what party should want this stopped. I've said as well if Trump is guilty get him out of there, but I want black and white evidence not a perjury charge.
     
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    We’ve learned a lot from these two rogue FBI officials. We’ve learned that the FBI eliminated evidence that Hillary compromised high-level communications. We’ve learned that Loretta Lynch knew ahead of time that no charges would be brought against Hillary, even though Comey had said he had not coordinated with the DOJ on his decision. I wonder how that happened??

    And now 5 months of their texts mysteriously disappear. Who knew??

    Reasonable and rational people find all this troubling at the least. Why you don’t raises awareness level questions.
     
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    Trump's clean, the FBI is dirty.

    Fusion-Linked Conspiracy Theorists in the Media Go to the Place All Conspiracy Theorists Ultimately Go: The Jews Are Behind It All

    The media, while claiming Trump is anti-semitic, serves up piping-hot anti-semitic conspiracy theories of Jews working in league with RUSSIANS to undermine Christian America.

    [Glenn] Simpson, as a conspiracy theorist, believes that his conspiracy theories are true. He is "shocked" because he can barely believe the scope and size of the network of possible Trump-Russia co-conspirators that his investigations uncovered. There are so many Russian names in Simpson’s testimony--Russian mobsters, Russian bankers, Russian officials, Russian businessmen, filling his imagination like the characters in a party scene from Anna Karenina. Naturally, there are Russian women, too, like the "big Trump fan in Russia" who enrolled at American University in Washington, D.C., "which I assume gets you a visa," says Simpson. "I think she's suspicious."

    Why? Because, says Simpson, at some time she was working with the Russian "banker-slash-Duma member-slash-Mafia leader named Alexander Torshin who is a life member of the NRA." A story published by McClatchy claiming that the FBI was investigating whether Russian money went to the NRA to help Trump, thereby elaborating Simpson's talking points, was conveniently published a day before his testimony was released. To Simpson, what makes it obvious that the Russian businessman's NRA affiliation is fishy is that "you know, Vladimir Putin is not in favor of universal gun ownership for Russians."
     
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    There absolutly was cause for the investigation. The Russians meddled in the election. Every intelligence agency said they did. So we started an investigation of the meddling. That’s what this is. Trump made it about his campaign when he fired Comey. Nothing more, nothing less. This investigation is into the meddling in our elections, and why they did it.
     
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    Yea your right!!!!!
    Just Google Bill and Hilary Clinton!.....LOL.....when this all comes down, the excuses will be priceless!
     
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    INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY: The FBI Is Looking Guilty As Hell In Russia Probe.
     
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    :roflol:

    Great audition for Last Comic Standing.

    "Scary Stuff"? :roflol:

    Secret Society? :roflol:

    Wake up Granny and head for the Hills!

    Real "Scary"...:roflol:

    The RW needs some new material.

    Next. :bored:
     
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    ABC News has obtained the "secret society" text...

    It's a stand alone message from Lisa Page:
    "Are you even going to give out your calendars? Seems kind of depressing. Maybe it should just be the first meeting of the secret society"

    Anyone taking this seriously is an idiot or a liar lol
     
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    Some people actually took this "seriously"?:roflol:

    How delusional are things getting (among the Trump Apologists)?

    Just a simple inquiry.

    People actually believed that "Textgate" BS? :roflol:
     
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    No, the NSA didn't sign off on the IC report. Of those that did, three had 'high confidence' and one had 'moderate confidence'. Analytic confidence. It represents the vague nature of 'Intelegence' gathering. Intelegence and counterintelligence spooks have zero business offering opinions in criminal, or any other legal issue for that matter, concerning US citizens. They deal in probabilities in lieu of hard facts or tangible evidence. They guess.

    Even 'high confidence' by its definition comes no where near 'beyond a reasonable doubt. It might nudge but not pierce 'reasonable suspicion', as to 'probable cause' we aren't even speaking the same language.

    • High confidence generally indicates judgments based on high-quality information, and/or the nature of the issue makes it possible to render a solid judgment. A “high confidence” judgment is not a fact or a certainty, however, and still carries a risk of being wrong.

    Really? This is the standard. Un-f'n-acceptable. If one wants to unseat the elected sovereign one better be certain.
     
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    You know the DOJ has 'found' the six months of 'failed to be retaind' texts of Lisa and Pete, right?
     
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    Exactly Mueller can't even prove what he has been tasked with in a court of law and he knows it. The actual crime would be conspiracy to hack the DNC. He would first have to prove that the Russians hacked the DNC and he can't. So he can't even come close to proving conspiracy.

    So he is left with perjury traps and other process crimes.
     
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    You have no idea what he knows! LOL! No one does.

    Delusional thinking will get you an imaginary world.
     
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    True, but the investigation on the 'process" of investigating the the investigation has made available a treasure trove of accessible information and evidence. It's all being done in the open except for closed hearings but those are becoming openly available over time.

    Openly available texts of Strokes and Pages showing times, dates, patries discussed, contemporaneous events discussed, amd general conarrations on actions taken. Openly available legal proceedimgs, transcripts, names, dates, events and documents. Openly available meetings with media with dates, times, people involved, contemporaneous events and the published articles derived from those meetings. Openly available media reports of events, time, place, people involved and transcripts. Openly available FBI releases about interviews, time, place, people. Openly available press releases on interviews, court dates and personnel changes within the Whitehouse, Trump Campaign, FBI, DOJ and SC. Openly available tweets from all participants. Openly available Congressional hearings with dates, events, people involved, actions taken, evidence submitted and transcripts.

    More is forthcoming soom. Several Congressional Hearings this month. Office of the Inspector General’s report, next month. The 'found' texts of Strzok and Page. Text streams from several other involved FBI and DOJ employees. House 4 pager with attached evidence and investigation report.


    From the above we can create a time line:


    July 10, 2015 — FBI opens the Clinton email investigation in response to a referral from the Intelligence Community Inspector General.

    Feb. 27, 2016 — Strzok interviews Jake Sullivan, a former Clinton State Department aide and adviser to her campaign.

    March 2 — Asked by Page who he planned to vote for, Strzok replied: “I suppose Hillary.”

    March 4 — Strzok writes to Page of Trump: “Omg he’s an idiot.” He says that a Trump victory in the GOP primaries will be “good for Hillary.” (RELATED: FBI Agent Praised Hillary While He Was Leading Investigation Into Her Emails)

    “God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0,” Strzok writes.

    April — The law firm for the Clinton campaign and DNC hires opposition research firm Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Fusion would go on to hire Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the infamous dossier.

    April 5 — Strzok interviews Clinton aide Huma Abedin.

    April 9 — Strzok interviews Clinton aide Cheryl Mills.

    Cheryl Mills sits behind Hillary Clinton as the former secretary of state testifies before Congress in 2015 (Getty Images)

    May 16 — A draft of a statement that then-FBI Director James Comey was preparing to release at the conclusion of the Clinton email probe was circulated among top FBI officials, including Strzok. “Please send me any comments on this statement,” wrote FBI chief of staff James Rybicki.

    Strzok has since been identified as the agent who suggested that Comey remove the legally-loaded term “grossly negligent” to describe Clinton’s email use and replace it with the term “extremely careless.”

    May 24 — Strzok interviews Clinton aide Heather Samuelson.

    June 12 — Strzok writes: “They fully deserve to go, and demonstrate the absolute bigoted nonsense of Trump.”

    June 17 — “Now we’re talking about Clinton, and how a lot of people are holding their breath, hoping,” he tells Page, appearing to reference a meeting that is not described. (RELATED: Top Clinton Aides Went Unpunished For Making Misleading Statements In FBI Interviews)

    June 20 — Steele writes the first of 17 memos that make up the dossier. He alleges that the Kremlin has recruited Donald Trump as an asset and that Russian operatives had been feeding the Trump campaign negative information about Clinton.

    June 27 — Then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch meets in secret with former President Bill Clinton. The meeting forces Lynch to step away from the Clinton probe.

    July 2 — Strzok and Justice Department lawyer David Laufman interview Hillary Clinton.

    July 5 — Comey announces that he would not refer charges against Clinton to federal prosecutors.

    July 5 — Steele meets with an FBI contact to provide a briefing of the unverified rumors he had picked up from Russian sources.

    July 19 — Steele writes the second memo of the dossier. It alleges that Trump campaign adviser Carter Page and campaign chairman Paul Manafort were handling the collusion effort with the Kremlin. Both have since vehemently denied the allegation.

    Late July — Strzok is handpicked to supervise a newly-opened FBI counterintelligence probe into Russian interference, including Trump campaign collusion. It remains unclear what sparked the investigation, though Republican lawmakers increasingly suspect that the Clinton-funded dossier was the catalyst.

    July 26 — Strzok congratulates Page on Clinton’s official presidential nomination.

    “Congrats on a woman nominated for President in a major party! About damn time! Many many more returns of the day!!” he writes.

    July 26 — A Wall Street Journal reporter contacts Carter Page to ask him about allegations that match what Steele wrote about him in the dossier. Steele alleged that Page met in Moscow earlier that month with two Kremlin-connected officials. Page has repeatedly denied having the meetings.

    July 28 — In a cryptic text, Strzok appears to refer to some sort of investigation.

    “Opened on Trump? If Hillary did, you know five field offices would…,” he writes.

    Aug. 6 — In another cryptic exchange, Strzok and Page discuss an unnamed “menace.”

    “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace,” Page writes.

    “I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps,” Strzok replies.

    Aug. 15 — In one eye-catching exchange, Strzok and Page appear to discuss a conversation that took place in the office of Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

    I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok wrote to Page.

    “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”
    (RELATED: FBI Officials Discussed ‘Insurance Policy’ Against Trump Win)

    Aug. 25 — CIA Director John Brennan provides what has been described as a “special” briefing to then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    Aug. 26 — Strzok writes to Page: “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…”

    Aug. 27 — Reid sends a letter to Comey referencing allegations made about Carter Page in the dossier.

    September — Steele, acting on the direction of Fusion GPS, meets with reporters at The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, The New Yorker and Yahoo! News to provide briefings about the dossier.

    Sept. 23 — Yahoo! News reporter Michael Isikoff publishes the first news article about the allegations against Page. The report is based on Steele’s allegations, though Isikoff did not disclose Steele’s involvement or the dossier’s existence.

    Oct. 20 — During a presidential debate, Strzok writes: “I am riled up. Trump is a f*cking idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.”

    Oct. 31 — David Corn at Mother Jones publishes the first article quoting Steele, though not by name. Corn refers to Steele as a “Western intelligence source” and lays out the allegations about the Kremlin having compromising information about Trump.

    Late Nov. — Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson meets with Justice Department assistant deputy attorney general Bruce G. Ohr. Simpson disclosed this month that Ohr requested the meeting. Ohr had met prior to the election with Steele. Ohr’s wife, Nellie, worked as a researcher for Fusion GPS on its Trump project.

    Nov. 18 — A Steele associate named Andrew Wood informed Arizona Sen. John McCain about the allegations made in the dossier.

    Nov. 28 — David Kramer, a McCain associate, flies to London to meet with Steele. They arrange for McCain to be provided copies of the dossier.

    Dec. 5 — Strzok reportedly briefs the House Intelligence Committee on the Russia investigation.

    Dec. 9 — McCain meets with Comey to discuss the dossier.

    Dec. 13 — Steele writes his final memo for the dossier.
     
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    Jan. 6, 2017 — Comey briefs Trump on the allegations in the dossier

    Jan. 10 — CNN reports that the briefing took place. BuzzFeed News follows up by publishing the dossier in full.

    Jan. 13 — At the urging of Democrats, the Justice Department’s inspector general opens an investigation into the FBI’s handling of the Clinton email investigation. Clinton allies are upset at Comey’s handling of the probe.

    Jan. 19 — The New York Times reports that U.S. intelligence officials had intercepted communications between Russians and Trump associates. Details of the contacts are vague.

    Jan. 24 — Strzok and another FBI agent interviews then-national security adviser

    Feb. 13 — Flynn is forced to resign, purportedly for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Kislyak.

    Feb. 14 — The Times reports that there had been “repeated contacts” between Trump associates and Russian operatives. Details of the contacts are vague.

    Feb. 16 — CNN publishes an article stating that law enforcement officials believed that Flynn did not intentionally lie to the FBI during his interview.

    May 9 — Trump fires James Comey as FBI director.

    May 17 — Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appoints Robert Mueller as special counsel to oversee the Russia investigation.

    July 13 — CNN reports that Strzok joined Mueller’s team. It is unclear if Strzok joined at that time, or if he had worked for Mueller since his appointment in May.

    July 20 — The FBI provides the Justice Department’s inspector general with text messages exchanged between Strzok and Lisa Page, his mistress and an FBI lawyer who also worked on Mueller’s team. The texts were for the period between 2015 and Nov. 20, 2016. After reviewing the texts, the inspector general expanded its review to include all of Strzok and Page’s exchanges through July 2017.

    July 26 — FBI agents acting on a warrant obtained by Mueller raid the Virginia home of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

    July 27 — Inspector General Michael Horowitz briefs Mueller and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on the Strzok texts. Mueller’s office now says that Strzok was “immediately” removed from the investigation and placed at FBI’s HR department.

    July 28 — FBI agents arrest former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos. He is later charged with lying to the FBI during an interview in January. He was not interviewed by Strzok.

    Aug. 10 — The Justice Department inspector general receives Strzok texts sent after Nov. 30, 2016. It is unclear if these also contain politically-charged comments or discussions of the Russia investigation. (RELATED: New Details Emerge About Discovery Of FBI Agent’s Anti-Trump Texts)

    Aug. 24 — House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes subpoenas the Justice Department and FBI for documents related to the dossier. The committee believes that Strzok was involved in handling the document.

    Oct. 11 — Nunes asks Rosenstein about the committee’s request to interview Strzok.

    Oct. 31 — FBI officials refuse the committee’s request to interview Strzok.

    Nov. 29 — According to The Washington Examiner, Nunes again asks Rosenstein to make Strzok available for an interview. All of the requests appear to have been denied.

    Dec. 1 — Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI during his Jan. 24 interview with Strzok.

    Dec. 2 — The New York Times and Washington Post report that Strzok had been removed from Mueller’s team because of his politically-charged text messages. After the publication of the story, the Justice Department informs Nunes that Strzok will be made available for an interview.

    Dec. 7 — Fox News reports that Bruce Ohr had been stripped of his title as assistant deputy attorney general after the revelation that he met with Steele and Simpson last year. It is later reported that his wife, Nellie Ohr, worked last year for Fusion GPS.

    Dec. 11 — Deputy FBI Director McCabe backs out of a House Intelligence Committee interviewed that was scheduled for the next day.

    Dec. 12 — The Justice Department releases 375 text messages exchanged between Strzok and Page.
     

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