Feckless Obama throws blind Chinese activist to the wolves

Chen thinks that this country is still free and respects life. He's living in the past. If he tried to speak out here, the result would be no different than in China. He'd be surrounded by "pro choice" activists screaming death threats and how he killed George Tiller. Chen is the most dangerous man to ever try to get into the US. He's like Osama Bin Laden. Now, liberals can scream that pro lifers are crazy Christians trying to impose a theocracy on the nation and force women to have babies. Get someone like Chen here, they can't use that.

 

Amazing.....so his motivations are not based on consistency in leadership.....but the political expediency of avoiding opposition criticism/ramifications to party power as each new challenge arises....

who would imagine such coming from Obama!?

 

How is that any different from any other president in the last 30 years?

The problem isn't Left-Right, Republican-Democrat, or Obama-Bush/Romney.

The problem is that the entire system is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. The only way to fix it is with a Constitutional Convention.

 

Obama is a principle-less loser. He is jealous of the Chinese ability to throw those who oppose them in prison and call them ciminals. Leftists everywhere suck, wether its Bejing or Washington D.C.

 

Liberty, freedom, and justice are not "ramifications", they are laudable goals. If the progressive leftist Neo-commie sympathizers had the back bone to force China into establishing civil liberties and open elections before granting them favored nation trade status, we would not have this problem.

 

I don't agree with you often, but this is definitely one of the times.

 

I think that we agree on a great deal, you are merely confused by leftist politics and propaganda, and have allowed those things to deminish your principles and values that every American should hold dear, as these things secure our liberty from those of both parties who wish us to be subjugated to their elitist whims.

 

You'll get no arguments from me against the system being (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.....I utterly despise the expanding...limitless... authority of Big Fed....
however, those who inadvertantly defend it with interminable moral equivalency arguments will inspire a few.

 

because if Obama had a son, he would not look Chinese.

 

Wrong. We need public funded elections, not corporate America backing both sides and their monitary control now matter who wins.

 

I wasn't defending it. I've already called Obama despicable for this.

However, if you look at this from a Washington politics, power hungry, Elections-are-the-only-things-that-matter standpoint, his actions make sense.

Too bad that mindset is what is destroying America.

 

I agree. That's one of the things that I would want in the new Constitution. But I definitely think we need more changes (like a proportional representation system to break this utter failure of a Two Party system).

 

Man! You are on a roll today. Makes me proud.

 

A new constitution will not do that. We do not need a new constitution, we need men and women who have genuine values, principles, and morals who love America, believe our liberty and freedom that is our greatness. More political parties that create greater factionalism and conflict is not needed. We can disagree on alot of things, but if our arguments are not based on our higher principles, then the only thing that we are fighting for is air to breath with our heads up our butts.

 

Multiple parties creates more "factionalism" but the extremes are cut down. People are actually able to be represented by a party as opposed to parties making these huge wholly ineffective umbrellas. Then coalitions are forced in order to move forward. It moderates politics.

I would also want a system of run-off elections where a Federal politician would have to have 75% of the vote to get his seat, President included.

 

I bet this blind activist isn't even blind. Prolly has some slight eye problems but has exagerrated them to win sympathy. Anyway - i hope obozo doesn't give him asylum. Asylum is just a scam illegals use to come here to america and rip off the taxpayers. Besides - he's just a stinking lawyer.

 

you guys. You're a lost cause. Look him up on wiki. one of your biased left wing sites.

 

The first...the only.... step to our "salvation" is to immediatly cease the installation of politicians who even HINT at expanding the scope an authority of the voracious, many tenacled monster in DC....

There's a "movement" afoot to do just that....yet, it's been resoundingly excoriated by your "team"...
to wit, I must rhetorically ask "why?"

 

It amuses me that people think this is about abortion. It really isn't.

It's about money. It always is. If Chen was trying to escape Iran, he'd already be safe. He's trying to escape China -- one of our biggest trading partners. Clearly, we're facing a conflict of interests.

 

Why is it then that the TEA Party seems to only put forward/support:

1. People who were Neocons right up until the TEA Party became popular and a massive source of votes.

2. Fundamentalist Dominionists that want to force their religion on America

3. Flipfloppers who supported big government until they found out they were supposed to be against it?

That is why I don't support the TEA Party. The politicians aren't the problem. The system itself is a problem. We need to force Constitutional amendments that reduce the size of government, limit its size in the future, force it to have a balanced budget, and forces it to have a slush fund of excess money for times of emergency.

The only way to achieve that without having to go through corruptible politicians is by a Constitutional Convention.

 

Oh, but it was our business. It became our business as soon as he entered the grounds of the American Embassy. The embassy grounds are considered part of the United States and Obama allowed the Communist Chinese to demand someone on American soil be given over to them.

Barack Obama is the most cowardly president this nation has had since its inception. He would never say something like, "Millions ofr defense, not one cent for tribute." Instead, he would say somthing like, "Please don't scare me. I'll do whatever you want."

 

unhappily. you have hit the nail on the head.

 

If we harbored him, we spitting in the face of Chinese law, on their soil...

How do you think we'd react if the situation were reversed?

 

That is actually a very common misconception that is believed to stem from a Simpsons episode. The grounds of an embassy are not the territory of the nation which is represented by that embassy but is the sovereign territory of the host nation. Sovereign states undertake not to have their agents/law enforcement enter that part of their sovereign territory, a safe guard of the diplomatic relations between the states and the principle agents of those relations i.e. the ambassador and his staff. But legally it is still theirs, it has not been abrogated in anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17905985

 

Well, who knows what behind-the-scenes deal The Chosen One has made with the Red Chinese, after we heard the groveling for the Russians to "give him some slack, unitl after his re-election....