Feelings about Ethnic Diversity?

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by Anders Hoveland, Apr 25, 2012.

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Do you think immigration should be restricted based on ethnicity/race?

  1. Yes, my children should not have to live in an ethnically diverse nation

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    28.6%
  2. No, but I generally prefer to be amongst people more ethnically/culturally similar to me

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    14.3%
  3. I am NOT an ethnic minority, and ethnicity does not matter

    11 vote(s)
    52.4%
  4. I AM an ethnic minority, and more minorities should be allowed in

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  1. irishguy76

    irishguy76 New Member

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    I prefer to lived in a white/european community in american because minority will tear up a neighborhood ever step away and if they try to moved in a white neighborhood there present will not be welcome !

    plain and simple !
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    Not every minority. Japanese, Koreans, and to a lesser extent Chinese do not cause any trouble. Indeed, many of them actually look down upon the other races, including white people. Some keep claiming it is cultural, but I strongly suspect a genetic component (analogous to different breeds of dogs).

    I still would prefer to live in a neighborhood of all my own ethnicity, however.
     
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    Asian people general keep everything clean i can say that however when i say minority like *Black,Hispanic,Mexican,Other* they destroyed neighborhood, And that why if one come in and then five and now you got a epidemic then what............

    *Crime will go up*
    *Property value will drop*
    *You can't go out at night*

    And is just like wild fire until you stop it from entering another neighborhood and cause havoc and destruction because there end game, Is to make white people suffer by all mean and one way to do it *destroyed a white neighborhood* that there end game and who support them like Liberal,ACLU,NAACP,Media.............

    this is there ultimate goal and not no *white fright* but is there and they are now welcome in a hard working white neighborhood...................
     
  4. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hybrid vigour wins, whatever the mix: it is what (apart from stealing native land and African work) made the US. If people don't like it, tough. It's the way the world is going.
     
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    You sound like Anthony Blair, who stated the other week that the "European Integration Project" (if that language doesn't give away the true agenda then nothing will) was going to go ahead, "like it or not".

    In other words stuff the working class and the majority, who have never been enamored with this multi-culti Star Trek global government / one world fantasy and the other modish left wing beliefs of the day. Totalitarian mentality in a nutshell.

    Edit: You come from Wales. How "diverse" is your area I wonder? It's just that I see a large number of ultra militant Scots, Welsh and Irish on here (I don't think I've ever met a Scot who wasn't a raving mad Marxist) who promote mass immigration and "diversity" and yet I have the sneaky suspicion that none of them live in areas which are even remotely "enriched".
     
  6. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, fair play, two hits there. Bliar is no admiration of mine, and we do suffer from incredible levels of immigration - there is one of our constituencies where the majority are foreigners, mainly from Lancashire. Nevertheless, the general point does stand: capitalism will get a cheap workforce where it can (though it will also set up the mobs to attack them in one of its inevitable slumps) and poor people - like all our ancestors - will move to where they can get a better living. What's more, as in the Rhondda where I come from, a mixed population is manifestly superior in most ways, as was ours to any other in the UK until the capitalists destroyed it. Grin and bear it!
     
  7. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry - double post caused by impatience with snail-system.
     
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    I don't care what ethnicity or race someone is. I care about a person's attitude towards this country, what future they have in mind for their country. If I lived in a nation of blacks or hispanics who held my same values---I'd be a happy camper.

    I really have a hard time with people that assume minorities have to think a certain way. I've met too many that I share too much with to boil it all down to the color of skin.
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    When one entrenched ethnicity insists on holding ecconomic and social power toward no other end than to hold that power, there will always be racial and cultural tension. Yugoslavia is a good example of that. The Serbs decided that they would have to be the ones to set the tone for the entire nation.

    The only difference between a Serb and a Croat or a Bosnian is religion. They all speak Serbo-Croation, although the Serbs insist on writing it in Cyrilic script.

    How well did that work out?
     
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    Nope, this is true only to some limited degree. Certain cultural elements may be considered harmful or even illegal by the dominant culture, and rightly so. Cultural diversity describes not only harmless kebabs, but can also range from higher crime or unemployment rate to things like female genital mutilation, religious extremism and a whole way of life sometimes incompatible with others.

    So, contrary to ethnic diversity, one can certainly be justifiably opposed to some aspects of cultural diversity, as it is a completely different matter. There is no reason why cultural diversity or culture in general should be made into any kind of a holy cow.
     
  11. PatrickT

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    When one entrenched political insists on holding ecconomic and social power toward no other end than to hold that power and reap the financial benefits thereof, there will always be racial and cultural tension. Democrats are the example in the U.S.
     
  12. Til the Last Drop

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    LOL. Any dude would go after a good looking girl regardless of skin color if he was single and she was game. Some even if they weren't single. Racism is like homophobia, exist primarily in men and is directed primarily at men. A pride thing.
     
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    Cool. You can live in South Africa then. Becareful though, the blacks there are murdering white people on a genocidal level, so watch your back.
     
  14. MegadethFan

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    The difference here is how one defines culture. I'm using the word as relative to personal preference. So genital mutilation, religious fundamentalism and other insanities are fine as long it in thew sphere of one individual over their own mind and body.

    As I say, I used the two descriptions in relation to personal choices and preferences. Social policies or laws are another matter, but its rather obvious that in order to have cultural diversity one requires one codified form of law, else cultural diversity could not exist, if that makes sense.

    I agree with what you have said, the thing is I was making a slightly different point.
     
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    Democrats arent the only ones, that's for sure, nor are all Democrats valid examples. In fact your mention of Democrats so vaguely is more insightful of your ignorance and prejudice than the validity of your point.
     
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    So why is Brazil less successful than Australia?
     
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    Of course the goal of all liberal/socialist/multiculturalists is pushing ethnic diversity into every (usually white) enclave. This is done by forced intergration and government housing, and unfair immigration policies.

    There have been great experiments in black majority-multicultural communities. Soul City, NC is one, and Jonestown, Guyana anthor. Both are failures. I don't know of any wealthy, exclusive black majority community in the US or Europe. Does anyone?

    The best idea is for members that want to seperate themselves into their own communites is to form their own private clubs on thier own private land.
     
  18. Mr_Truth

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    Funny cause that's what British say about neighborhoods when Irish move in. :razz:
     
  19. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    I can't vote because my option isn't included. I would have picked "I don't dislike being around people of different ethnicities or culture but I would prefer immigration to be somewhat restrictive in matters of race because I want to preserve the racial make-up of a given country"
     
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    I believe that immigration should be restricted based upon demonstrated desire to immigrate legally, and then work really hard to live the American dream.

    I don't care WHAT color you are.
    If you aren't on a terror watch list,
    you aren't a convicted felon in your home land,
    you aren't a drug dealer or meth manufacturer,
    and you do have a strong work ethic,
    then I welcome you to this country with open arms.
     
  21. satv365

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    That's what everyone says when the Irish move in...
     
  22. satv365

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    Here's a fun rant on this.

    America's immigration is different than Europe. America's immigration is about high cost of labor and the ease of Latin Americans coming here to make some money to send home or live a better life. We can argue the pros and cons of that latter.

    However, Europe's is just (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with no logic to it at all. Old Colonial Nations are hoarding back to the former ruling continent for whatever reason and few European politicians have the balls to talk about the problems associated with it.

    Oslo for instance, most all the crime is committed by the immigrants. Than you have the problems with the Muslims pushing themselves around in Britain, Netherlands, France and so forth. You have the reactionary groups like the English Defense League, Neo Nazis in Germany and other far right, or anti-immigration and Nationalist groups and political parties growing and becoming more influential.

    Remember, Europe tends to overreact in these situations. Poland rounded up ethnic Germans and killed and deported them. France wiped out Occitan and Breton after the war. All it takes is for one European country to give in to their tendencies to overreact to Ethnic, religious or racial feelings and (*)(*)(*)(*) may go down.

    Funnily enough, I just don't want them to deport all their muslims and have them end up here in America...
     
  23. Anders Hoveland

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    At least the millions of undocumented Mexican migrants who come to work in America are hard working. They may cost billions of dollars to the emergency rooms and public schools, but even the those against immigration do not doubt the migrants are hard working.
     
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    Not just "problematic" alien cultures , but ANY cultures if/when those cultures have conflicting lifestyles. Language is the primary conflict. How do you tell a cab driver who doesn't speak English, where you want to go ? How can someone who doesn't speak English work as a security guard ? If he needs to call 911, will there be an operator there who understands his language ? There better be, if someone is lying the ground bleeding to death. What if there are 40 different languages being spoken ? 40 different phone operators ? This has already gotten out of hand, as tax dollars are being used to accomodate a wide range of languages. It's wrong and stupid.

    NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people, with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th ed.)
     
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    Which benefits their employers, and harms everyone else.
     

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