FERGUSON PROTESTERS Hold Surprise Rally at Upscale Plaza Frontenac Shopping Mall

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  1. Critic

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    Again, they aren't doing anything useful. Showing the rest of the world our mistakes isn't beneficial to the US at all. You know what I think? I think other countries are going to look at these riots and think that the US is full of radical protesters that are trying to cause chaos and that the US is more of a shamble than they already thought it was.
     
  2. Micketto

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    No they don't. Their party tells them they'll do just fine leeching off the taxpayers.


    Well, you know... they have to confront those "thug cops".... at the upscale mall.... in a different city.


    Plus side... no flash mob thefts in the mall.

    Yet.
     
  3. EMTdaniel86

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    You do realize that Wilison isn't going to be charged. We're now a little over 3months since it happened and nothing is moving on that. The evidence doesn't back up Brown either. It doesn't back up Willsion either. As a result you can't really take it to trial. The 3rd reason is that grand jury member screwed up saying there wasn't enough evidence.
     
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    Which really underscores the problem. The squalid and abhorrent lack of reguard for human life, the violation of our rights, and no accountability on behalf of our public servants.
     
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    In the end all they're doing is hurting the black community as a whole. Let the justice system do its job. Here is something to think about, when a white gets gunned down by a black, do the whites go ape and riot and destroy things? No they don't.
     
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    What makes more sense here: a cop who just decided to shot someone in broad daylight with bunch of witness around, or that Brown charged him and the officer fired in self-defense? So if you want to talk about human life, talk about Brown.
     
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    Fatherless kids were once called bastards because this is what happens when they are raised without a man inside the house.

    The women today are matriarchs who even prevent fathers from using the strap if the situation calls for it.
    Teachers are restrained now from being the biggest person in the classroom, so Bullies have suddenly become a real problem.

    Now, these bastard kids want to resist arrest, even punch a cop, and get away with it.

    People forget that the cops are the lawful people who can, and are supposed to, use physical force if they see a need for it.
     
  8. Aphotic

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    Problem is the cops police themselves, so no justice is ever served. They don't even offer up the info in alot of cases. If anything, this just further destroys whatever trust the public may have in police.

    As to your last point, you're forgetting the real issue here. It isn't about whites being killed by blacks and vice versa. Despite the partisan spin, this is about cop killing citizen. You're falling for the race card by even bothering to mention this.

    Any officer that kills an unarmed perp or suspect should immediately be fired, charged with murder and never allowed to serve the public again. I can't go out and brutalize my customers because I dislike how they speak to me. But as a cop, you have free reign to trample rights and summarily execute people, and get off scot free.
     
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    What makes more sense here - shooting and executing an unarmed man, or deploying nonlethal mace/pepper spray/taser to subdue and make an arrest?

    Which violates the rights of the suspect? Summarily executing him, without being found guilty by a jury of his peers, or subduing him in a nonlethal fashion and allowing him to exercise his inalienable rights to a trial by jury?

    Not to mention - unless you were there, you cannot make the claim he charged him. Eyewitness accounts don't back this claim up, and the one that sort of almost kind of supports this conjecture is the guy who says he wasn't sure if he charged, or stumbled due to being wounded. Sounds concrete, doesn't it?
     
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    A cop is punched in the face by a guy who weighs 310 LBS, then tries to take his gun,... walks back but starts charging the cop as he gets out of the police car.

    Shooting sounds like pretty reasonable behavior.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Unless somebody has a surprise witness squirreled away, there is no evidence that was the case.
     
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    Even if that guy weighs 310LBS and is physically charging the cop?
     
  13. Wake_Up

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    So which blog did you copy paste that from?

    Just more race baiting drivel with the verbal conviction of the Ferguson cop.

    Maybe you should go join your compadres at the mall.
     
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    First off he wasn't excused, he was lawful shot. 2nd you don't deploy a non-lethal with out having lethal backing it up. If the cop just shot him, where the witness? Where is the evidence? Brown screwed up, and he got shot for it. And rightful so, nothing is going to happen to the officer..

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    Wasn't he like 6 2 or something? Hell I would be shoot too if you have a 300lb guy coming at you.
     
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    But once we find out the facts we will know.

    We all have the power to use deadly force, it's not special just to the police.
     
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    Wow that is bunch of BS. Cops get charged all the time. You're making this a race issue, not me. Take black and white out of the problem what do you have? You have a 300lb 6ft tall person charging at a cop. No matter how hard you want to spin this, this was a justified shoot.
     
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    Only the pathetic far left would choose to side with a known assailant who just attempted to rob a convenient store 20 minutes earlier, over a cop with no record of abuse.
     
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    it seams the only time a black males life is worth anything is when it taken by someone white
    we have dozens of black males killed every day by another black and nothing but crickets but all hell break loose if we have the rare occurrence of a black killed by a white. like all of a sudden that black males life is worth more than if he was killed by another black
     
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    Defense of Brown’s killing.

    He was not an 18-year-old teenager, but a man-sized Black male 6’4” tall and well over 250 pounds, (310LBS), was a threat to public safety. In other words: a “thug” – -

    He was just reported on the police radio as involved in a theft.
    He had struck the cop who previously had stopped him, and tried to take the officer's gun forcefully.
     
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    This is true, but the big difference is the Real Tea Party had valid reason, this Ferguson situation is nothing but blacks accusing the cop of racism without any proof, as of yet. That's been the point all along. Any time a black is arrested, maced, tased, stopped, shot, killed by a white person, it is automatically a racist issue...always.

    Which really has nothing to do with Ferguson.

    But in the case of Ferguson, there is nothing to do but arrest the violent protesters and put them in jail for their crimes. There is NO reason to "give in" to the BS going on there.

    Since we still haven't been given the "facts", we can not draw any conclusions. If we find that the cop was in the wrong, then I fully expect him to be prosecuted. If he was not, then I fully expect the blacks in Ferguson will lose their minds and the violence to escalate above any level seen so far.

    Again, that IS the point. The immediate and automatic assumption the black is innocent and the white is guilty.
     
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    Ummmm . . . you are aware that the fellow in the video segment is not Brown but instead is someone re-enacting what an alleged-witness claims to have seen happen? Anyone can claim to have seen anything and in this instance . . . did; but then it has to hold together in a court of law under cross examination. That's something entirely different.
     
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    Why would they be outraged if Wilson ultimately is proven not guilty? Because he's white? Because Brown was black? Why?

    Are you just making stupid assumptions too, like the Ferguson mob?

    So, in your mind there is already a "right or wrong" outcome, even without the facts?

    Lol, you're no better than the thugs in Ferguson.

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    Yeah, after all, far be it from the police to actually deal with thugs, huh?
     
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    Let's get a few things straight for you clowns here -

    1. YOU are buying into the race card here, not me. Specifically, refer to my post above. This is about POLICE killing CIVILIAN to me, not white killing black.

    2. This has nothing to do with size. We've heard officers killing family chiuahuah dogs when they themselves are 6'4'' and 300lbs, so it's a nonstarter. It doesn't even equate. Cease using it as defence, because frankly, it doesn't matter one iota.

    3. The officer in question was not aware of the robbery when he stopped Brown, the chief released that information. If anything, he was stopping them for jaywalking, as ridiculous as that is.

    4. Thug is a commonly used and mistaken term. Thug originated from thuggee, a criminal in India, part of a cult, that strangled merchants and stole their wares. Not a black person in a ghetto.

    5. A real threat to public safety? Because of his size? Book him and charge him with robbery. The justice system works for that type of crime. It doesn't merit summary execution.

    6. The public was only made aware of the robbery when the chief of police released the info. If you can't see that the timing of the release of that video wasn't specifically to misconstrue Brown as deserving of his treatment, you're delusional.

    Since when does robbing a convenience store merit the death penalty? Perhaps in the wild west, but even SHARIA LAW handles this more appropriately then the PD in Ferguson did.

    Keep swallowing the partisan spin. In the meantime, realise that every single one of you who support this shooting have the same rights Mr. Brown did that night, and your refusal to voice your protest of our police ignoring our rights can one day make you the victim of circuimstance as it did Mr. Brown.

    Nonlethal means were -not- used in this case. When a suspect FLEES THE SCENE, how anyone can justify lethal force without first applying nonlethal force is f*cking beyond me.

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    Let's get a few things straight for you clowns here -

    1. YOU are buying into the race card here, not me. Specifically, refer to my post above. This is about POLICE killing CIVILIAN to me, not white killing black.

    2. This has nothing to do with size. We've heard officers killing family chiuahuah dogs when they themselves are 6'4'' and 300lbs, so it's a nonstarter. It doesn't even equate. Cease using it as defence, because frankly, it doesn't matter one iota.

    3. The officer in question was not aware of the robbery when he stopped Brown, the chief released that information. If anything, he was stopping them for jaywalking, as ridiculous as that is.

    4. Thug is a commonly used and mistaken term. Thug originated from thuggee, a criminal in India, part of a cult, that strangled merchants and stole their wares. Not a black person in a ghetto.

    5. A real threat to public safety? Because of his size? Book him and charge him with robbery. The justice system works for that type of crime. It doesn't merit summary execution.

    6. The public was only made aware of the robbery when the chief of police released the info. If you can't see that the timing of the release of that video wasn't specifically to misconstrue Brown as deserving of his treatment, you're delusional.

    Since when does robbing a convenience store merit the death penalty? Perhaps in the wild west, but even SHARIA LAW handles this more appropriately then the PD in Ferguson did.

    Keep swallowing the partisan spin. In the meantime, realise that every single one of you who support this shooting have the same rights Mr. Brown did that night, and your refusal to voice your protest of our police ignoring our rights can one day make you the victim of circuimstance as it did Mr. Brown.

    Nonlethal means were -not- used in this case. When a suspect FLEES THE SCENE, how anyone can justify lethal force without first applying nonlethal force is f*cking beyond me.
     
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    Lol... he thought that was Brown holding his hands up in the video. ffs...

    I'd say this video, which we have covered in great depth already, is cancelled out by the other video where the witness says Brown rushed toward the cop.
     

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