Fill in the blank: " It's okay to kill your baby when... "

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    Anders......

    No need for this question.....this group believes abortion should be legal.....FOR ANY REASON, DONE ANY TIME ON DEMAND, AT ANY GESTATIONAL AGE.

    THEY ARE RABIDLY PRO-ABORTION......THEY DO NOT SEE THE INHUMANITY OF ABORTION...THEY EMBRACE IT AS A RIGHT, A PRIVILEGE, SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
     
  2. churchmouse

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    Then professor the ones who don't agree with it are hypocrites. Abortion should be a right because a woman should have a right to her body....not just some of the time but all the time....so later term abortion should be legal. Why do you want to take womens rights away?
     
  3. churchmouse

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    Then professor the ones who don't agree with it are hypocrites. Abortion should be a right because a woman should have a right to her body....not just some of the time but all the time....so later term abortion should be legal. Why do you want to take womens rights away?
     
  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    ..it's not a baby or a person but a fetus inside it's mother and the mother wishes to terminate it, or kill it, or destroy it, or slaughter it, or whichever hot-button emotional word lifers are using this week. That's when it's okay.
     
  5. churchmouse

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    I will keep this one filed away.....it shows you the person...your heart.

    First time one of you rabidly pro-aborts have used the real terms that describe the real act....kill, destroy, slaughter. I am emotional about this....and you are cold...heartless....absolutely heartless about this issue. I am sure it spread to your entire being......yuk.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I will be the first to admit that when it comes to matters like this, I always side with the woman who's already been born, as long as that is the person making the choice. What I think is funny is that you actually believe that you can judge a person's entire character because they happen to be pro-choice. By doing this, you prove time and again that you really don't understand life or people at all, and that's almost certainly because you try to see everything in your own 2 shade terms. That's your right of course, just like the rest of us have the right to not take you the slightest bit seriously.
     
  7. churchmouse

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    Your (*)(*)(*)(*) straight I can. You people do the same thing you just won't admit it. I can't really tell you what I think of you...or anyone else. There are rules on this forum. I have to attack your position. I wish we could say anything we want...but its not like that.
    You are siding with the position that kills unborn children. You are pro-abortion, you want no legal protection for the unborn. I find this position immoral, sick, vile. I have nothing in common nor do I want to hang around people who believe this way. You sit in a garbage heap long enough you start smelling like garbage. I understand people like you. The thing is...you think yourself more moral...than some thing of you. This bothers you that much is obvious. I don't care if we agree on politics, movies, music...I am sure we have many commonalities...but the biggy for me...is this issue. I believe it shows a persons heart...and soul. I do not choose to be associated with people who are ok with killing unborn children. I might work with them...in a work setting....but when it comes to friends...I would never pick one who was pro-choice. And I do not care what you think of me. It does not matter because I don't want to associate with you and if I think your position is immoral, why would I take anything else you say seriously? I feel sorry for you actually.

    I know you don't take anything I say seriously. IMO you don't know or care what Truth is.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such intense hatred isn't healthy for you. Seek help.
     
  9. OLD PROFESSOR

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    Well, Cady, you just go off and impose your beliefs on yourself. No problem. Just don't try to impose them on those who find your morality limited, hypocritical ( be honest now - you believe in gun rights, and the death penalty and war, all of which I am unalterably opposed) and we won't have any problem. You just shoot the next intruder, sit there at the lethal injection, and congratulate yourself on the number of the furrineers the good old US killed today, but don't expect me to join into any of your hypocrisy. If I am wrong about any of the side issues, I am sorry. Maybe we can talk.
     
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    Well, Cady, you just go off and impose your beliefs on yourself. No problem. Just don't try to impose them on those who find your morality limited, hypocritical ( be honest now - you believe in gun rights, and the death penalty and war, all of which I am unalterably opposed) and we won't have any problem. You just shoot the next intruder, sit there at the lethal injection, and congratulate yourself on the number of the furrineers the good old US killed today, but don't expect me to join into any of your hypocrisy. If I am wrong about any of the side issues, I am sorry. Maybe we can talk.
     
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    Another rant?

    NO ONE is "PRO ABORTION." But there are a LOT of people who are "PRO CHOICE."

    And abortion doesn't kill BABIES. It terminates the development of a FETUS, preferably an EARLY TERM fetus.

    What shows a person's heart and soul is NOT to force one's belief on a woman, but to care for ALL children, to advocate for a better life for ALL children. . . not just for clusters of cells that, EVENTUALLY, if the development proceeds without problem, will become babies, preferably WANTED babies. . .because that is what to a very large extend will determine whether those babies have a chance to a good life and to develop their full potential.

    Why don't you spend all the time you spend advocating for clusters of cells to advocate instead for easy and free access to health care for ALL pregnant women, and all newborns, and all children. And to advocate for good, efficient education, and a roof over their head, and healthy meals.

    Your obsession with "fetus" is meaningless if you cease to be interested as soon as those fetus are born.

    That position is immoral

    "I feel sorry for you actually."
     
  12. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what inspired this, or why you would assume what my positions are on other issues. IAC, I'm capable of debating those issues without hating.
     
  13. OLD PROFESSOR

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    Good. You are only imposing your beliefs on others in one limited area.
     
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    How can an anonymous discussion on an internet forum be "imposing beliefs"?
     
  15. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry Professor, but where did Cady IMPOSE her beliefs on anyone, anymore that is that Churchmouse or any of the "supposedly" pro-life people.

    I don't think this forum requires that everyone SHARE beliefs, and that it is perfectly alright to disagree on issues?

    I am just surprised by your reaction to this. I just don't understand what you mean.

    It is a fact that pro-choice people DO NOT impose their beliefs on anyone. . in fact, that's what "CHOICE" means.
    In the other hand, the so called "pro-life" people want NOTHING MORE than to impose their beliefs on every one. . .by TAKING AWAY the "CHOICE" part.

    NO pro-choice people want to IMPOSE abortion on anyone who doesn't want to have an abortion.

    But pro-life people would love to IMPOSE a law on everyone that would make abortion illegal.

    Now. . .who is imposing "beliefs" again?
     
  16. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely!
    In addition, the first link offered DATES FROM 1993!
    And the second CLEARLY STATES that "selective" late term abortions are illegal, and the Doctor who was found guilty of performing such abortion (in 2005) was found GUILTY AND SUSPENDED.

    Why are the pro-life people being so dishonest in the "information" they provide?

    Obviously, the law is there to prevent abuse of late term abortions. . .but as in everything, there will be people who do not obey the law. . .Is that an excuse to make EVERY abortion illegal? And if the LAW that exists today doesn't deter abusive use of late term abortion. . .why would making EVERY abortion illegal deter those people?
     
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    What CAdy....I am being totally honest. I don't hate you believe me. I think your position is vile...and I would not want to be around those who have vile positions. Now if your position changed...then that would change my feelings. I would never want to be associated with people who believe that even a nine month old childs mother should be able to kill it. Not gonna happen. You need the help my dear....you need to grow a heart.
     
  18. churchmouse

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    Here are some of your pro-aborts heros..........not taken from 1993...all up to date.



    http://news.yahoo.com/2-abortion-providers-charged-murder-md-230809522.html

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/01/19/philly-doctor-facing-8-counts-of-murder/

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57350176/abortion-doctors-charged-with-murder-in-md/

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/late-term-abortionist-randall-whitney-arrested-for-slapping-patient
     
  19. Cady

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    No, you are not being honest. Your entire rant is not about a "position." It is about the "you people," as you call those who hold that position:

     
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    You people...yes. I am not talking about a cows position on abortion...or a hawk. I am talking about people whose position is pro-abortion. If the shoe fits wear it. Where in the rules here does it say I have to want to be friends with someone who holds a position I find immoral?

    I am sure you feel the same about PEOPLE WHO HOLD THE POSITION THAT I HAVE.
     
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    No, I don't hate people who hold a different OPINION.
     
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    "You do not know or care what the Truth is" are you for real ?

    The Truth .. as pointed out to you numerous times.. is that there is no "baby/child" in the early stages of pregnancy.
    The Truth is that you have made a huge overgeneralization in lumping all abortion into the same catagory.
    The Truth is that this fallacy has been pointed out to you numerous times yet you still continue to repeat it.

    What is immoral, sick and vile .. IMO.. is someone who knowlingly uses lies and falsehood in order to justify forcing their beliefs on others.
     
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    Seriously. I have lots of family that align themselves as pro-lifers, mainly because they are Christian and/or conservative and that's what the media tells them to be. But that doesn't mean I don't love or can't get along with them. I may disagree with them on many issues but we just don't talk about it. People can have differing opinions on a variety of subjects and still find friendship with one another.

    Not saying we should all just drop the debate and be buddy-buddy here though, that's what off-topic chat is for I think. Plus it's hard to make friends with someone who has constantly called you immoral, vile, disgusting, evil, etc.
     
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    I don't hate them either...but I don't like them...and I don't have to surround myself on a person level with people who I do not admire and want to be around.
     
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    You don't comprehend science. When the sperm meets the egg....A NEW HUMAN LIFE IS FORMED. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT....THE FACTS DO NOT CHANGE. IT IS NOT A ROCK, A PIECE OF WATERMELON, OR A NOTEPAD....ITS NOT AN APPLE OR A FROG. IT IS A LIVING HUMAN BEING....this is what science says. This is what you just can't grasp because your so rabidly pro-killing the unborn you don't see it. You don't want to see it. Abortion is killing...and you are pro-killing. YOU WANT NO PROTECTION FOR THE UNBORN CHILD....NONE. THAT PUTS YOU IN ONE CATEGORY. It's not a flattering category....its one that for many is uncomfortable.

    What specifically am I lying about?

    Put up or shut up.
     

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