Florida could shield whites from ‘discomfort’ of racist past

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  1. Lil Mike

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    I'm on Eastern time, my team is in central time, and we have team members on Pacific Time. That's a detail that can be managed fairly easily.
     
  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It can be managed, and it can also be a problem. I have seen both.
     
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    Well I can only assume that you gave your students the link.

    To their own resources?
     
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    How do you define a teacher going "rogue?" Does it include teachers using CRT in their teaching?
     
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    Really? Why would I do that? :roll: :roll:

    I made sure every parent of a student in my course had the link, too. The website had a detailed section for parents and an email address so we could communicate.
     
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    Not teaching the curriculum.
    No, but it would include teaching CRT as a fact.
     
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    i notice a trend with liberals trying to lump blck and brown in the same categories but most “brown” people I know do not like this. They are actually closer to whites from a genetic standpoint point.
    If you people are gonna slap labels on everyone at least try to be accurate
     
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    I can imagine what this would be in response to, but the fact that you find the response a joke, while the original issue acceptable says all that needs to be said.
     
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    Schools pushing CRT present living in the US as a racial and ethnic minority as such a situation. There is no such minority. Disadvantages in the past suffered by SOME members of a particular racial or ethnic minority does not magically disadvantage all members of that minority. Black Nigerian Americans have a higher average wealth and income than the average American. US probably has more black billionaires than any country in the world. These blacks dont suffer from any disadvantage just because they are the same color as some African Americans enslaved in the past.
     
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    So would you be okay with teachers using white supremacist ideology in their teaching, so long as it doesn't include teaching white supremacist ideology as a fact?
     
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    To their own resources?

    Okay, and if for some reason you were banned from teaching that stuff, including banning you from giving out a link to any related online teaching resources, how would this have banned kids from using the internet?
     
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  12. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you read, and comprehend what you read, I said it sounds like a joke that the governor makes culture wars a priority when there bigger issues in Florida. As for the approach itself, - it is almost certainly going to backfire.
     
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    The racial war organized by Democrat party is the most important issue in the United States.
    We have to find the way how to fight back.
    There is no democracy without people's unity.
     
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  14. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Culture was is always #1 priority to woke people (left and right). Others are concerned about jobs, economy, health care, education etc

    Culture wars are designed to do the opposite, - to divide, which is probably why the populist mainstream republicans embrace it. Their platform is founded on the "us vs them" ideology.

    If you are concerned about "race war" then how is putting white majority in charge of deciding what will and will not be taught in schools going to help it? Seems obvious that black schools will counter is by going "all-in" with the opposing view points and it will pit people against each other like never before. Maybe that's the intent.......
     
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    Exactly. You see HIM as waging the culture war. Look around bud.
     
  16. Pro_Line_FL

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    I am aware of what it going on, and I stand by what I said. There are bigger priorities, but I suppose he has an election to win, so this is his priority. It tickles the ears of his base, so he is "all-in" with culture wars.
     
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    So your claim is that no politicians on the left are engaging the culture war?
     
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    Where did I say that?

    My words: Culture was is always #1 priority to woke people (left and right).

    DeSantis believes wokeness is the path to winning the Gov reelection, and maybe even WH, so he is "all-in" with it. It will interesting to see if he was right. Some populist posters here have said its their #1 priority, so there is something to it.
     
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    ?????? That would be CRT that seeks to divide.
     
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    Yea, but Republicans are not obsessed about race. That is Democrats.
    Sure, they urge people to change culture, e.g. to be creative, to start business, to work hard etc. Some cultures do not like that, so they call Republicans racists. Even those that are African Americans.
     
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    Lately Republicans have been more obsessed with it than anyone. They are "all-in" with the white-man-persecution approach, and the alleged racism against them.
     
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    It couldn't be because the woke left has doubled down on telling them that. Right?
     
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    I would like to agree with you. However, the problem with those culture wars is that your side, the left, is the one that starts them. They are not started on the right; the right merely reacts to your side. DeSantis didn't just wake up dreaming one day of CRT/antiracism training. That was pushed by your side and has been a fact of life in K-12 for years. It's only the shutdown of public schools that brought this nonsense to the awareness of parents that has created this backlash against it, not some right wing jihad.

    So I would love to go back to those "bigger priorities" but apparently we can't have nice things because your side won't stop with the culture wars.
     
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    Nor should you. That is the proper attitude, rather than to be personally offended, because of things that were done by people who may not have even been your ancestors, but who were only of your same race. I don't generally feel that it reflects poorly on me, even when other white people today behave atrociously.

    What makes either of you think that the teaching of some white people, in the past, lynching blacks, or obstructing them from voting, is implying that all white people are, "bad," or, "inherently racist...or oppressive?" That is an erroneous leap of illogic that you and Fatback are making.


    If you were unaware of this, there has been, and still is, in our society, an ideology, along with attitudes and practices, that are intended to, and which do, insult and degrade black & brown people, and go further, to discriminate against their ethnic groups, as well. It is interesting that this would both come as news to you, and/or that it does not seem to concern you, at least not as much as not having white kids hear about anything that white people did in the past, to oppress others. The point of this, BTW, is not to teach that any ethnic group is bad. It is to show how any group in power can abuse that power, through discrimination against others, because of superficial differences in appearance; this is to demonstrate how inhumane, harmful to society, idiotic, and just plain wrong that it is, in the hopes of lessening its occurrence, in the future.
     
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    Could you describe this ideology and tell me which Florida schools it's being taught at? What reading material or training material is associated with it?

    If you have the teachers names who are teaching this ideology that would be helpful.

    Thank you.
     

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