For Asian Americans, a changing landscape on college admissions

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=1

So no matter what, Asians can't have a perfect SAT score?

This is a racist policy. It hurts whites and especially Asians for obvious reasons. But it also hurts black and hispanic students by placing an implied asterix on their degree. The smartest person at my high school was a black guy and people like him don't need this type of racist policy clouding his education and career.

Some in the comments section have tried to defend this by making economic arguments. They compare rich Asian kids who had parents pouring resources into an elite education to poor black kids, but this SAT adjustment was for race, not economic class. There are poor Chinese students just as there are rich black students.

The below bothers me as well.

100% isn't a realistic scenario, but if a top school is 80-90% Asian, what's the problem with that? Maybe someday the top school in the world will be in an Asian country. Oh no, it won't be diverse enough, what ever will we do?

 

Absolutely racist and discriminatory. And on the other side harmful to black students who do not qualify for higher education but are pushed there and then fail or are coddled and get degrees they did not properly earn and then go out and fail at jobs they were hired because they had the degree.

 

American affirmative action. They are reforming the other messed up policy of allowing colleges to receive bonuses for accepting minorities.
This one is just as bad. While you can actually get a perfect score, you might be missing out on a higher "free point" advantage depending on your race. Another failure for "positive" discrimination.

 

I probably could have received a football scholarship from these schools if I had been given a 25 yard head start in the 40 yard dash.

 

This is absolutely necessary......... blacks and Hispanics have always scored significantly lose on IQ tests than Whites........with Northern Asians scoring slightly higher than Whites. This study certainly supports this fact. Who cares if better qualified Whites and Asians are pushed aside to admit less qualified blacks and Hispanics.........it's the 'right' thing to do........and makes liberals feel better....

 

Any liberal defense for this? I've already pointed out why arguments around economic challenges don't work here, so that pretty much leaves supporters with arguments that celebrate diversity for diversity's sake.

If current trends continue, colleges will someday be well over 50% female. Do champions for diversity support an SAT bonus for being male in that situation?

 

One also gets points for hyperactive disorder and/or attention deficit disorder.

 

you understand your opening salvo isn't what she was saying that they deduct points from the reported score. She was making a statement of what weight it gets. With no real evidence mind you if you read your link further. Schools have always used things other than test scores to build their student body. Guess what, if you father or mother can build a building for a school, you get in regardless of test scores. You want to talk about that?

 

"you understand your opening salvo isn't what she was saying that they deduct points from the reported score. She was making a statement of what weight it gets."

How is that not the same thing? Whether they subtract 50 points from the SAT's of Asians directly or notionally use that amount to alter the weighing of the SAT's against other areas, it still means that Asians are penalized in admissions.

 

LA Times points out that this is from a Princeton study, as mentioned in my first quote. The exact amount of SAT score fudging probably varies from school to school. You don't need to mess with SAT scores to examine other elements such as GPA, volunteer work, etc. when evaluating candidates.

As for your comment on a donation to a school, how is that relevant here? That impacts a very small percentage of students, and it's not how Asians gained such strong traction as a culture.

 

Texas schools are pointing kids to the ACT test more and more often, and it's growing in popularity with Texas universities.

 

I have to say that a weighted scoring system is wrong. It doesn't solve the basic problem that our schools are failing to teach African-American and Hispanic students.

 

Study hard, do all the right things, work your ass off...and colleges will penalize you because of what you happen to be. How can this not be wrong?

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Pssst....it's called deflection.

 

This is exactly why the USA will cease to exist as we know it.

If blacks and hispanics aren't intelligent enough to do well on the tests as a group then so be it.

Don't ruin the country because of it.

 

This is nothing more than racism.

Merit.

 

Future Asians are going to be very against affirmative-action like policies once it gets out that they're being penalized, secretly or not.

 

I think most American liberals are in agreement on affirmative action. Affirmative action is applied in a lot of developed countries, but the diversity of America makes it more controversial.

 

Not really. It's the result of a racist system. If it weren't for skewing admissions scores, universities could be dominated by only one ethnic group.

 

Dupe...

For Asian Americans, a changing landscape on college admissions

 

Our federal school system isn't going to be overhauled anytime soon. Individual families should look for positive examples in the most successful groups that climbed to the top the hard way. A lot of Asian (not just East Asian) immigrant familes provide this positive example that I wish inspired me at a younger age. Their example will certainly impact how I raise my future kids.

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Ah you're right. Sorry about that. If mods can bump your thread while moving comments from mine to yours that would be great.

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Racist in favor of Asians that study extremely hard? Is the NBA racist in favor of blacks?

 

Barack Obama is a perfect example, he never earned a GPA, never made the Dean's List at any college or university he attended and what was common to do with affirmative action students back then, instead of failing them they were just given a degree and graduated with a Magna Cum Laude.

 

No, they don't understand that, which is obvious from reading this thread. Cons have a long history of only seeing what they want to see in any given situation and ignoring the actual facts. Fox Nooz has done a great job of dumbing down America.

 

But a black can score a 2650 on the SAT, which is 250 points above a perfect score.

I see next year the writing part of the SAT will no longer be counted as part of the score and a perfect SAT score will again be 1600, unless your black then it will be 1850.

 

Wow...the ignorance is strong in this statement.

Giving advantages or disadvantages based on race is racism.

If treating everybody 100% equally results in something being dominated by one race...so be it, those of us who don't have their head up their ass call that reality (which it is), not racism (which it isn't).

 

It's not a matter of intelligence. It is a product of the unequal school systems in apartheid America.