For the 'don't stomp on my rights' crowd

Just look at the distance you had to reach to make your point. No one is forcing you to leave your house or get within 6 feet of others.

 

It was and is a threat, but one that was greatly over estimated and reacted too. If we learn anything from this is should be that. As the world ran around in a frenzy we lost the ability to tactically react to this. The most at risk could have been better protected without shutting us all down. Better short term and long term outcome had we done that.

 

Stay home. Problem solved.

You might as well say I can not drive my car as that could result in a accident where I could hurt or kill others. Where does your right to feel “safe” supersede my rights? This is the same poor logic that the anti 2 Amen people use. That somehow if my everyday common actions make you feel unsafe I must stop them.

I’m not buying into that. I’m asking you to do nothing. Don’t ask me to do something. Pretty easy stuff.

 

If you drive your car drunk, you are a danger and the government has the right to pull that privilege.
If you walk around infecting people, the government has the right to stop you.

Imagine if someone had ebola and walked around saying that you didn't have the right to stop them from mixing with the public.

 

Drinking and driving is a choice, one that is made by said driver. If i were intentionally infecting people then yes I would be liable.

Me walking around in my Normal day to day life or driving around is not the same as either of those things.

We all put each other at risk each time we get behind the wheel, not intentionally but we do. This is no different. If you feel the risk is too great then stay home and off the roads. But asking me to not drive because of the risk you feel is not reasonable.

 

Meanwhile back in countries that locked down early the death rate has remained a tiny fraction of what America has seen and we have laid out a map to economic recovery whilst safely reopening the country

With the added bonus of of a much much lower healthcare bill

 

Obviously you've missed the news the last few weeks.

People calling themselves "conservatives" have again and again gone nutso over wearing facemasks.

And, yes, those demanding their "right" to not wear a facemask are calling the business decision a "violation of their Constitutional rights."

 

Let us say you get the virus and test positive but you feel ok

Would you visit all your loved ones or would you self isolate?

 

No other country has the complexity within their economy that we do. Comes with being the largest economy in history I guess...

 

If I tested positive I would self isolate.

But I have not.

I’m not living in the “what if” fear based world some people seem to relish existing in.

 

Such as wearing a mask????

 

How do you know you do not have the virus?

That is the problem with COVID you can be completely asymptomatic and still be as infectious as helll

 

Here's the problem...

Drive off that bridge and a 911 call puts police, fire, and ambulances at the scene of that stupidity rather than where they're needed.
Get sick and end up in the hospital taking up medical resources that could be used elsewhere.
Of course, the hospital is AFTER infecting who knows how many others.

People can be as stupid as they like. They really have no right to take the rest of us along.

 

Chicken Littles can be as cowardly as they like and stay at home. No one is forcing them to go outside.

 

I've worn a mask once this entire thing. And only because a salon that I went to in order to get help with my daughters hair which had become such a tangled mess that it had to be cut out demanded it (no gloves though). Rest of the time I've had no mask. Why? Because no one in my county has had the virus. Not one single person. Why should I be inconvenienced by some city slickers fears when I have no reason to fear because the nearest case of the virus is over an hour drives away? And by an hour I mean actual constant driving of 60 miles an hour. Not no city hour in which you barely move a mile in an hour.

If you want to wear a mask then go for it. But not every location needs what you need.

 

Winter Is Coming.

 

And that just proves my point. "I'm fine, so I can go out and do whatever I want." Do you think all their friends have survived the virus? Are immune? If not, we know that peer pressure will encourage them to join their 'immune' friends for a day at the park or the beach.[/QUOTE]

With this Covid thing, the media would have you believe that immunity acquired after infection is tentative or speculative. It is not. Immunity acquired after infection is a biological fact, and it's been demonstrated today and before. It's just that the media suppress that discussion so that they can emphasize nebulous death rates and scare people silly.

Herd immunity is very real, though how large it actually is will not be known without widespread serological testing, and as long as CDC is in charge, that ain't gonna happen.

 

Yes it is which is why we are continuing to test

We are doing contact tracing

We are working out ways to stay safe

And we know our peak will be September but by then we will have had time to prepare, to research for treatments and most importantly bought time to get closer to a vaccine

 

With this Covid thing, the media would have you believe that immunity acquired after infection is tentative or speculative. It is not. Immunity acquired after infection is a biological fact, and it's been demonstrated today and before. It's just that the media suppress that discussion so that they can emphasize nebulous death rates and scare people silly.

Herd immunity is very real, though how large it actually is will not be known without widespread serological testing, and as long as CDC is in charge, that ain't gonna happen.[/QUOTE]
Yeeeers but we have no idea how long that immunity lasts

 

I suggest you temper your gloating until then.

 

Yeeeers but we have no idea how long that immunity lasts[/QUOTE]

If it follows as other such virus do, and depending upon individual factors, it should be good for a few years.

 

With this Covid thing, the media would have you believe that immunity acquired after infection is tentative or speculative. It is not. Immunity acquired after infection is a biological fact, and it's been demonstrated today and before. It's just that the media suppress that discussion so that they can emphasize nebulous death rates and scare people silly.

Herd immunity is very real, though how large it actually is will not be known without widespread serological testing, and as long as CDC is in charge, that ain't gonna happen.[/QUOTE]
I'm not doubting herd immunity. But I'm also not buying that all these youngins out there at beaches and parks have it. I'm not buying that there aren't some who are asymptomatic and, potentially, infecting many others.

My commentary is about taking responsibilities for the rights you demand. If people demand to be let free, the responsible thing to do is wear a mask, unless of course, you know that you are healthy. Otherwise, you could be unwittingly spreading the virus.

 

I'm not doubting herd immunity. But I'm also not buying that all these youngins out there at beaches and parks have it. I'm not buying that there aren't some who are asymptomatic and, potentially, infecting many others.

My commentary is about taking responsibilities for the rights you demand. If people demand to be let free, the responsible thing to do is wear a mask, unless of course, you know that you are healthy. Otherwise, you could be unwittingly spreading the virus.[/QUOTE]

In the US Constitution that I have read, the government has specific and enumerated powers, and the rights of the citizens cannot all be listed, according to the Ninth Amendment.

Among the government's powers IS NOT a power to demand social distancing and the wearing of masks for a disease with the qualities of Covid.

Civil disobedience is a good thing, and the younger generations are making me proud.

 

How do you know I do?

Do you live you life with "what if" daily?

Of course you do not, why on Earth do you think I will to make you feel better?

Again, the ball is in your court, you can choose to stay home and be as safe as that makes you. I'm not a factor in your safety unless you choose to venture out. Why should I have to alter my right to make a living to accommodate you when you have that choice?

How do you now next time you drive your car you will not cause a accident and kill a family? Why on Earth would you be so selfish to ever risk that?

 

Civil disobedience is the reason we have a country.