Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Show proof. The GW community claiming it a lie with no proof does not count
     
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    What were they hiding that it took 2 years of FOI before they released it. they only released because the court forced them to. This is not science this politics. Science should willingly release all data not hide it.
     
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    Address the facts and stop with thats a bad source. The facts in the article are truth
     
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    Skeptical science was started by someone in Australia sick and tired of the lies on the internet engendered by the denialist community

    As of last count they have caught the denialist community out in 173 lies
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

    And each and every one of those has a research papers to back up why the denialists are wrong

    Let us take the latest lie
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-fall-2010.htm

    They point out where the error has been made and prove their case by referencing to other sources

    That is just one site I have a lot more
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    I am sorry but if I find something someone has written in crayon on toilet paper then I will believe it less than if it is written in text in a manuscript held at a university library

    Prison planet does not even make crayon on toilet paper grade
     
  7. ptif219

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    Those aren't lies. The sun causes warming and the GW propagandist disagree.

    You sight is a joke
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Listening to Prison Planet again - livefree addressed this with a link.

    IT WAS NOT THEIR DATA TO RELEASE

    They had to get permission from the various bureau's around the world before it could be released and that took 2 years - the permission has now been granted
     
  9. Colonel K

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    You spread lies. Whether you realise that is doubtful, despite repeated tellings.
     
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    Hah! you got far enough to read the titles and stopped there

    Did you read any further?

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
     
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    That is crap. They refused to release data. What are they hiding. Nice spin but that data should automatically be public information
     
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    What are you ranting about?
     
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    So you refuse to read the article that shows September temps were used to show hottest October
     
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    http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2011/July/crutem3

    I suggest you stop listening to bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy conspiracy sites like prison planet
     
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    Yep! Unless you have a more valid site than Prison Planet

    I KNOW what to do with soiled toilet paper
     
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    So now the heat source for earth no longer heats earth? Then what causes warming. What lies

    http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=454

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPH23RMkegw"]Sun causes Global Warming, Climate Change - CERN: Cosmic Rays & Solar Activity cause Climate Change - YouTube[/ame]

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/06/army-vs-global/
     
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    I suggest you stop listening to the lies of skeptical science.

    We have natural climate change and according to many the sun may go into a cooling period and we could see a mini ice age.

    You would learn about the lie on prison planet. The truth is the GISS and NASA used wrong data
     
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    Your utter contempt for fact, and concurrent absence of insight.
     
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    I post fact. You don't like it because it shows the lies and corruption of the global warming community.
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Okay for a start your FOS (and in nursing that stands for Full of (*)(*)(*)(*)) site

    NO ACADEMIC REFERENCES

    If it is not referenced it is not fact but opinion

    The graph - firstly it is not of global temperatures but northern hemisphere alone - and we do know there is a correlate between temperature and solar activity - something skeptical science did say was happening until the 1970's when the correlate fell apart due to rising CO2 levels

    Now FOS's interesting graph and even they cannot hide the fact that the correlates between data are wider since about 1970

    As for the even less academic you tube - it starts with an article and then goes on a rant about Al Gore

    Yep! VEEERY valid and true
     
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    It says more than your skeptical science BS comments..

    You say nothing about the army.

    Any grade schooler can tell you the Sun is our heat source
     
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    Again ptif proving just how intellectually dishonest he is. Repeating the same nonsense time and time again after it has been shown to be false.

    Since you automatically disregard any information you think came from a 'warmist', lets skip past SS and cut straight to the science.

    Benestad 2009: "Our analysis shows that the most likely contribution from solar forcing a global warming is 7 ± 1% for the 20th century and is negligible for warming since 1980."

    Erlykin 2009: "We deduce that the maximum recent increase in the mean surface temperature of the Earth which can be ascribed to solar activity is 14% of the observed global warming."

    Lean 2008: "According to this analysis, solar forcing contributed negligible long-term warming in the past 25 years and 10% of the warming in the past 100 years..."

    Usoskin 2005: "during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source."

    Scafetta 2006: "since 1975 global warming has occurred much faster than could be reasonably expected from the sun alone."
     
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    The GW community justifying the lies of Global warming. They can't admit the sun is the cause of warming and blame man at the same time

    http://biggovernment.com/cstreet/20...f-science-discredits-man-made-global-warming/



    Here is data manipulation to fit the GW agenda

    http://www.real-science.com/new-giss-data-set-heating-arctic



    Nasa ignores its own study because it does not promote GW


    http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study...Responsible+for+Past+Warming/article15310.htm


    More lies from NASA

    http://biggovernment.com/jdunetz/2011/05/13/nasa-gets-caught-faking-climate-change-data-again/
     
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    You are being lied to, and uncritically passing on the lie.
     
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    Global warming is the lie. I show their data manipulation and lies and corruption and still you you support the government funded lies. The government scientists are as corrupt as the rest of the government
     

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