Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about

Regardless you ARE contributing CO2 aren't you? If facts alarm you they you might consider withdrawing from the discussion.

How much is "relatively small amounts?" Perhaps you need to be reminded that we are talking about TRACE gases, not 'relatively small amounts' which is basically meaningless. We are talking about .038% PPM by volume. (About 39 thousandths of 1% for you mentally challenged, zombie, brainwashed, envirowhackos)

AND we are talking about a temperature rise (mind you taken from 'stations' that use an array of 19th century to 20th century measuring instruments and sometimes hand-written, data from uncalibrated satellites, bad 'station' placement...THEN data being thrown out like yesterday's fishwrap because it didn't conveniently align itself with the already pre-determined conclusion of GW.

I digressed...a temperature rise of (drumroll) 0.74 degrees C (7 THOUSANDTHS of a degree per year) over the past century or so. That is if you can even believe that most of that data has any actual integrity or that 100 'environmental' sites won't have inflated numbers.

What we are seeing is nothing more than an on-going scientific study of climatic forces purported to be 'settled' science in order to dupe the dupes into throwing more $$$$$ at a created problem.

 

Yes we are contributing. What is your point? And nobody is alarmed. I just find it ironic that denialists love to call AGW proponents alarmists while at the same time ranting vehemently about how 'preparing for climate change will cripple the economy and force us all into 3rd world like conditions under the rule of a communist one world government where they will want to tax even the air you breathe!!!'. It's seriously irony at it's finest.

Sorry, I should've just said 'small amounts'. Now ignoring the rest of your typical, unscientific denialist babble, what is your point about CO2 being a trace gas? Are you trying to imply that trace gasses have a negligible effect?

 

If I put a drop of black ink in a glass of water, the water turns black and I can't see through it, even though there's only a tiny trace of ink in the water. According to the RPA1 idiot theory, that can't be possible, being that there's only a trace of ink. Yet it happens. Trace elements block EM radiation, in the visible spectrum for ink, in the infrared spectrum for CO2.

Most of the IR spectrum is already blocked by the various greenhouse gases, so there aren't many spectral "windows" left for heat to radiate out of. CO2 covers one of the few remaining spectral windows, which another reason why this "trace" of CO2 has such a large effect.

RPA1 won't be able to understand that, being it's written at a 6th-grade level, and because his masters didn't spoon-feed it to him. Stalin would have been overjoyed to have UsefulIdiots as gullible as the denialists.

 

The Warmers' "remedies" seem awfully Stalin-esque to me.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel

And you think that will not have an effect?

 

Nutball conspiracy theory, contradicted by the real world.

No. The current warming rate is at least double what you quoted, 0.13 - 0.22 C per decade. Cumulative for a century, that's huge. Add in the fact that land temperature increase is about twice that of the average.

Barking kook conspiracy theory rant, indicating the speaker is too much of a deranged partisan to be taken seriously. Science and the data are non-political, despite the attempts of the lunatic right to make it a political issue.

Why is it that a handful of right wing cranks in the US, UK, Canada and Australia believe they know the RealTruth, a RealTruth that the rest of planet earth is ignorant of? This conspiracy requires billions of people to be in on it.

 

I think your post lacks perspective which is typical of GW/AGW pushers.

21 billion tons of CO2 is 6 one millionth of the total atmosphere on Earth. Like I said in the former post CO2 is a TRACE gas to which over-inflated properties are attributed by the GW/AGW faithful in order to scare $$$$ out of the liberal-socialist media-duped masses.

 

"I can't believe it's true because I don't understand the science!" is not a valid argument, so you might want to stop using it over and over.

 

You are the one denying and with your head in the sand. The lies and deception and data manipulation you ignore and justify.

You are defending lies and data manipulation.

 

No this is what the GW community claim

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fCP_nHRjP8"]Evidence CO2 does not cause dangerous Global warming - YouTube[/ame]

http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=1

 

The nut ball conspiracy is manmade global warming that is based on data manipulation and lies

There is evidence that warming has stopped

 

What part of "CO2 is not the only thing that affects earth's system temperature" do you not understand?

 

Then why does GW community only address CO2 and all they seek is less CO2 no matter the costs to the average citizen.

 

They don't. Why do deniers rotate the subject each time they lose?

 

The world and average citizens are the ones losing in the global warming scam.

 

They don't - they have spent plenty of time on other aspects - the natural forces playing on the climate are (mostly) in balance

But CO2 is what is tipping them OUT of balance.

But Methane also plays a part

As does NO2

As does the residual CFC's

 

Hmmmm - huge rotation quotient I see...........

 

could you show us this evidence please?

 

CO2 is a TRACE gas. .038% of the Earths atmosphere. Again, some perspective.. Nitrogen makes up 78% and Oxygen 21% of our atmosphere. Since (as you mentioned) their molecule (NO2) is a greenhouse gas you had better look at eliminating them first.

 

Bit by bit, the Warmers credibility erodes away.

And all they can do is to continue to quote junk scientists that fewer and fewer people believe.

Every day, people are deciding the AGW is baloney. The pseudo-scientists who continue to trumpet AGW are damaging science as a whole. The failure of science to clean house, ridding itself of these charletans discredits a lot of good science.

"Oh! You're a scientist. Are you one of those guys who wants to tax and regulate us to death for something you can't prove?"

 

The silly myths of your cult of AGW denial have no connection to reality, no matter how many times the bamboozled dupes in the cult repeat them to each other.

 

Heh!! I love the smell of a conspiracy theorist in the morning!

 

Once again you show your ignorance of chemistry.

 

I was merely replying to the post of another. Shot your wad at her.

 

N and O are not GHGs. NO2 is. You do not need to eliminate N and O to eliminate NO2.
The .038% number is irrelevant as 97% of the atmosphere is not directly involved in IR warming.
I think I have presented you with this analogy before:
Cholesterol makes up about .05% of your body weight. Do you believe that a 40% increase would be harmful to your health?