Discussion in 'Current Events' started by icehole3, May 20, 2019.
I wonder if drone boy still has a copy of Obama's kill list?
It is very good to know that the federal agencies have the coordinates for all of the American rw extremist terrorist groups main houses, armories, and hiding places for drone hunting.
Nobody understands them. They are angry and old. I find it easier to just laugh at them and say ok.
They guy doesnt even have a security clearance.
The democrats might as well have China brief them.
The right is part of the establishment- as much as they would like to fantasize that they are the victim. (ironic, isn't it, that they would now use the victim card after heckling the left about it for years) They have the police, the state, and they have the military. All of these institutions claim to be liberal or left-leaning, but that's just smoke. You'll never see the establishment and it's supporters in the streets demonstrating as much as the counter-establishment, but they are out there.
And yes, the right does attack people, they do scream at the sky, and when Obama was President, yeah, they were pretty much hammering for stuff like birth papers and all that. You have armed right-wingers pretending to be police rounding up illegals (and whomever else they corner out there...) supposedly for the sake of America, yada yada. You have people bombing churches.
When it comes to parties yes. There are republicans who aren't really conservatives.
The only establishment we want to be in is the Constitutional republic one.
Asking for stuff that's required by law to qualify to be the POTUS isn't the same situation as wanting to see every bank record and business deal Trump ever had.
Then of course I have to point out that most "hate crimes" are actually hoaxes perpetrated by leftists.
Actual conservative groups and people aren't out bombing churches. That makes little sense since most conservatives are pro-Christianity.
Many of the "right wing" attacks that leftists like to parrot, like in NZ and Oklahoma city, weren't even conservatives. The NZ shooter idolized China's government and Oklahoma city was an attack on the government by a kook in response to Waco.
There is no comparison to the left's behavior and the right.
Strange, Brennan is a proven liar.
Brennan actually voted communist, look it up.
Brennan actually is a patriot and an avowed enemy of the USSR first t hen Russia. His case is you have to know em to learn to oppose them.
That is why 70% of American opposes the 30 % that is right wing.
Communist John Brennan that is.
We have quite a number of Republican who were and are fascists, where as Brennan got smart and changed.
We have had quite a number of Republicans who were or are segregationists, where as Russell got smart and changed.
Get smart and change, Republicans.
Sorry, you're the one with the outlandish claims. Prove it. We both know it's bullshit. The truth is he was NEVER a member of the Communist Party.
"Brennan told the polygraph operator that he had voted for Hall, but added that he was never a member of the Communist Party."
In the last election there were people who voted for Hillary but who weren't democrats.
I think you don't really know any of this. Some of it isn't even true. Most hate crimes are hoaxes perpetrated by the left? I'm sure you have a huge amount of facts (that you can't personally validate) that paint the left as frothing monsters. Only the left, though. The right may have some blame- maybe 0.00001%, according to statistics- but it's usually the left.
Nope, not playing that game.
Well I tell you what.
You give me a list of actual hate crimes committed by conservatives.
Here's the list of hoaxes, with full references and sources.
Let's see who committed more.
This, of course, doesn't include all the people who were attacked for wearing MAGA hats or Trump related bumper stickers.
Maybe you could give me a list of leftists attacked for their bumper stickers and hats.
People being attacked for wearing a MAGA hat, lmao? You can't be serious, please stop.
How about people being attacked simply for being Black, Gay, or an immigrant for one? Maybe choose any one of those categories, and that's just starting. If you want another crutch, restrict that search to only during Trumps presidency. They probably don't keep as accurate a statistic for that as they do for those poor fellows in MAGA hats because guess whose usually keeping score- although I'm likely to believe more people get attacked for wearing the wrong football hat than they do for a MAGA hat...
But the point isn't to say that one side is worse than the other. For some reason people are stuck in that left-right mentality and it looks so childish. Like telling everyone you only walk on your left foot. Problem is too many fools to agree with you, and not enough criticism to make you see otherwise...
Well then you could start with my list of fake hate crimes and show me that your argument is congruent in reality.
I know you can't though.
This country is more welcoming, more diverse, and more accepting of differences than any country on earth.
Of those countries on earth that are welcoming, you'll find they're predominately white countries.
You're welcome to compare the racism and hate in Europe or the US to India, Africa, Asia, South America, or any other place.
What you will find is that outside of places like the US, minorities, gays, and immigrants are treated far, far worse.
Oh, and by the way, other than fake hate crimes that spiked under Trump, actual racial strife is down.
Let me go interview everyone in from your fakehatecrimes website stories to verify whether what I'm reading is true or not. Like you, right? You ready to go start or are you just going to point me to some website because newsflash...that's not proof. That's hearsay. Me tossing links and papers and statistics at you is meaningless if I can't actually prove the reality of it. And you can't prove the reality of it either.
Most of the White countries are comparatively better off because they are usually the ones involves in destroying and destabilizing the others. They take their wealth, leave them impoverished, and then complain about them from their ivory tower.
But they don't even leave them alone then. Often they make sure they stay broken so they can be exploited. It's documented how the US has actively sabotaged countries, supports dictators who commit the most egregious of human rights, and then will try and cry about human rights violations from someone who doesn't do what they want.
True, maybe I should. Of course, to make sure I was getting the truth I'd probably have to do it myself. You see, everyone has facts. Everyone has their version of the truth. How do I know what's true verses what I choose to believe in?
I don't know about racism in other countries. I've never been there. The racism here is what I'm concerned with and pointing the finger at other countries doesn't lessen the issue here. That's just deflecting guilt.
Why? Because Trump told you? Do you know that to be a fact? Because from what I heard there's widespread abuse going on at the border by armed militia's rounding up immigrants. I know, they're just patriotic knights of justice, and anything stating otherwise is liberal nonsense.
I don't know. I've seen some gruesome things there, and I've seen some gruesome things here like forced sterilization of minority women in prison. Medical experimentation on minority prisoners and civilians. I've seen cops gun down 14 year old kids and walk away from it with a vacation. In the Dallas shooting a police woman shot her neighbor- apparently for breaking and entering into his own apartment. She didn't chop his head off with a machete, but what's the real difference? We're better funded?
Minorities are treated pretty bad here too. It's just constantly downplayed. They can show you proof and all you'd do is call it liberal lies or try to equate it to your own persecution for being White. This country does some seriously bad things within it's borders and far worse outside of them. Something tells me you don't ever bother at least trying to read about some of this other stuff. Cause I have. I know how the poor all around the country- poor whites are mistreated and underpaid. The root pickers crawling around the Appalachian. The Jersey poor being overworked and screwed on hours with crap benefits. These are poor white, but half them get told that the problem isn't with their employers. It's the immigrants and the minorities and the liberals and yada yada. They've got the power, that's why your life is like this. They're paying you **** wages and such.
You probably don't even talk to these people and ask their viewpoint. You just sit about and judge people because you're the one that's angry as well. And you're projecting that onto everyone else.
If there were no minorities ever in this country, I wonder if you'd be right were you are- still angry, still complaining, but just complaining at other whites for being the reason behind the corruption of your nation.
Oh yeah documented stories produced by the media are all fake. Ho hum.
Maybe if you had been outside this country, like me, you'd have a sense of perspective on how great this country is.
Like most though, they'll never expose themselves to reality. They'll say ridiculous baloney like "everyone has their version of the truth".
I'll have to ask my non-white wife about the corruption of the nation and see how much we laugh over some dunce on the internet implying my level of racism.
I have been outside the country. I've been to many different places both in the military and as a civilian. I've been to many non-western nations, and not as a tourist and not on vacation.
You see...there you go. You know everything.
I never called you a racist. I think you're misguided and clearly hearing what you want to hear.
Just because you have a non-White wife (whatever that means) doesn't mean you don't have poor, misinformed views of other races. If you had a Chinese wife, it doesn't make you informed or unbiased toward China.
I think you should, at the least, take a step back and say to yourself...what do I actually know. Because, again, you are the internet dunce projecting onto the internet.
Oh thats great.
Did you see the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan? The caste classes of India? The Burakkumin of Japan?
Did you see the results of 1 million people chopped up with machetes in Africa? The child sex slaves of Asia?
I should ask myself what do I know?
I'm not the one on the ****ing soap box.
Yes you are. And you're still not listening.
I simply stated the fact that hate crimes in this country are nothing compared to the rest of the world.
I gave you sourced and fully referenced website that details the level of fake hate crimes in this country.
Newsflash: if this country had enough hate crimes to satisfy the left, they wouldn't have to invent them by the barrel.
YOU'RE the one who started in on the nonsense, not me.
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