Former CIA director: Trump's news conference "nothing short of treasonous"

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  1. Kode

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    Russia is long known as our adversary for obvious reasons.
     
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    What's obvious?
    I smell neocon talking points forthcoming
     
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    HE did or said nothing treasonous.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    The russians TRIED to interfere.

    All they accomplished was to hack some information which the DNC did not want known and published it on obscure websites which few people paid attention to.

    There was no meaningful interference.

    No treason either.

    The NRA is going strong and you have nothing on them.
     
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    Denouncing our own intelligence agencies because he is under investigation to a known enemy of the state in Russia is at best stupid.
     
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    Maybe, but not treasonous
     
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    Believing the police is corrupt is one of the side effects of voting for a criminal.
     
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    Almost every war we have been in from the mid 1850s have been based upon deliberate lies by our intelligence agencies. That's not even disputed. Rather, the truth is always hidden until decades later and it all old news and those responsible long gone.

    It is wise to inform other nuclear powers and other countries that the president will not go to war because the intelligence agencies seek to gain more personal and institutional wealth and power by starting a war upon lies.
     
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    Could have sworn you said similar before. Let’s see how long it lasts
     
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    trea·son
    ˈtrēzən/
    noun
    noun: treason; noun: high treason; plural noun: high treasons
    the crime of betraying one's country
    , especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
    "they were convicted of treason"
    synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; More
    sedition, subversion, mutiny, rebellion;
    high treason, lèse-majesté;
    apostasy;
    literaryperfidy
    "the treason of Benedict Arnold will be recounted for centuries"
    antonyms: allegiance, loyalty
    • the action of betraying someone or something.
      plural noun: treasons
      "doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"
      synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; More
      sedition, subversion, mutiny, rebellion;
      high treason, lèse-majesté;
      apostasy;
      literaryperfidy
      "the treason of Benedict Arnold will be recounted for centuries"
      antonyms: allegiance, loyalty
    • historical
      the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.
      noun: petty treason; plural noun: petty treasons
    What Trump has done can be called treason, as in "betraying one's own country".
     
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    Brennan’s wrong. He is no longer responsible for any policy. Presidents are allowed to change foreign policy. Even if it hurts the country. And Trump wants Russia as an ally.

    That’s what elections are for if we disagree.
     
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    You've GOT to be kidding. Need I post DEMOCRATS in Congress wearing hoodies saying "hands up, don't shoot!" and what Obama said about the police?

    Don't even pretend the Democratic Party is the pro-police party.
     
  17. Durandal

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    Just threw America, and especially our intelligence community, under the автобус, and placed his personal interests ahead of our national interests (again), and did so very egregiously. It's a shame you are either unwilling or unable to comprehend how Russia is infiltrating and harming our politics and how Trump is very much instrumental to this. You join Trump in harming our nation out of ignorance and selfishness.
     
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    No, but your messages meet that definition.
     
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    Nope. WWI and WWII were about treaties and protecting those we had treaties with. What in God's name are you talking about? The CIA got us in proxy wars in S. America and SE Asia.
     
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    But he also attacked our intelligence agencies as he said he believed Putin on whether Russia hacked our election. There is hard evidence constituting proof that Russians did hack the election, and used Mariia Butina through the NRA to feed the RNC hacked info. Yet he rejected US intelligence and said Putin rejected the idea strongly. That aids and abets Russian cyber war on the USA, and that is treason.
     
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    Let's not pretend that Trump's election justifies such a policy change. He is attempting this UNILATERALLY in a system that is made up of many elected representatives. Trump is but one of them. We do not cast votes for one man or woman to carry out a long list of policies no matter what the rest of the federal government and the voting populace has to say about it! Trump is supposed to be a part of the government, not the personal embodiment of it. He is behaving like an autocrat, and a very stupid one at that.
     
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    Explain.
     
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    I disagree with his actions today in totality. But it’s the Presidents call. Not Congress
     
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    It's over. The Trump sycophants have no credibility now. Debates over this are pointless except to demonstrate who sides with Trump on selling out to Russia.
     
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    So, I take it you're disgusted by Trump's FBI/CIA comments.
     
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