Former deputy Scot Peterson arrested for child neglect, culpable negligence in connection with Parkl

I am grateful that such thinking is not part of the military and LEO's command ethos and understanding of how to deal with danger.

Please, I am not being rude, only truthful. On many other items we agree, Aleksander.

 

I've been thinking about this and came up with this question: Can the prosecution prove Peterson would have saved lives if he ran into the school?

Second thought: While I dislike unions, shouldn't Peterson's union be defending him? Isn't that why he paid union dues throughout his career, or did the union abandon him? I wouldn't blame the union if they tried, but this happened on the job and they should be the ones defending him, Did I mention I dislike unions?

I have no respect for Peterson, but right is right and wrong is wrong.

 

They are paid to share the danger, yes, but they protect the citizens by protecting themselves. They do nobody any good by being shot themselves.

" The idea isn't to die for your country (or people) but to make the other poor bastard (the shooter) die for his country" (or whatever strange reason he's shooting for)

And that's another aspect to consider. This whole active shooter for NO REASON is just so ****** INSANE. How can you expect rational people to deal with it at all?

 

That's what the trial and the judge will have to figure out

 

They wouldn't and couldn't prove he would have saved lives. He's not being prosecuted for not saving lives. He's being prosecuted for not trying.

 

Civilian law which is not the UCMJ so stop trying to equate the two.

 

Who are you? They are both justice systems, and, yes, they are similar.

 

I could see a policy the wouldn't let a lone cop go in. It'd be very easy to shoot innocent kids. But once they had several cops, they'd need to start going room to room. You are right that didn't occur at Columbine. And the troubling thing with Peterson is that reportedly he told other cops to not do their jobs. There are questions beyond whether the cops were trained and the apparent cowardice of one or two.

edit he's being accussed of perjury and neglect of a child and culpable negligence. We'll see.

 

Innocent kids were being shot while the cop was not going in

 

I don't think there's a doubt he had a moral, if not legal, duty to go in to urge kids to escape through him. I'm not sure we want lone cops going Dirty Harry in potential hostage situations. We'll see.

It brings up the idea of having guards. What happens when there are multiple ways to enter a building. I did some student teaching years and years ago in an inner city school, where there was one way in … via a metal detector and armed guards. Of course there were emergency exits, so a planned attack by several people was very possible. But at least a teacher knew he wouldn't get killed by some kid with a grudge.

 

If the police want to have an officer on a campus to act as a SWAT member, they should rotate people through the active SWAT team as part of their duties. To put someone in as a school/community officer and then expect them to be battle ready is totally wrong. The management of the department is who is to blame, not the officer.

 

If they fault Peterson for not killing the killers single handedly I'd agree. But I don't think that's really what people are questioning

 

They certainly don't do anyone any good by not showing up. There's a show on I.D. called Body Camera. The cops on that show usually ran at any active shooter, not away from them.

 

They're not expecting him to be a member of the Swat team, but they are expecting him to be more than crossing guard. I'll bet his salary is close to what the SWAT guys make.

 

Per the Sheriff, it is his job as an SRO to try to stop a shooter, in addition a number of BSO Deputies and the PBA are on the record considered what he did to be a dereliction of duty and called for him to be fired just prior to his retiring.

"On Thursday, Israel criticized Peterson and said he was "sick to [his] stomach" at the deputy's inaction."

 

That's what they are trained to do during an active shooter, try to ambush the shooter and cease the carnage.

 

The PBA has already stated why Peterson is indefensible therefore they would not represent him.

 

Peterson advised responding Deputies to stay out of the building because he didn't know the shooters location and many of them thought he was in the building looking for the shooter.

Once the BSO Captain arrived Deputies described her as being spaced out and unaware as what to do next, a CSPD Sergeant who was on CSPD main dispatch not BSO's channel advised his units to go in and confront the shooter, while the BSO Captain had Deputies set up roadblocks preventing parents from getting to the school. Sadly the roadblocks created a number of traffic jams slowing down additional backups and EMS.

In addition all responding units where supposed to go to the intercity channel, but the duty officer at CDC1 failed to assign a dispatcher to intercity and as a result CPSD and BSO where not talking to each other most of the time as they stayed on their own dispatch channels where they has a dispatcher keeping them up to date as 911 calls where coming in.

The perjury charge stemmed from Peterson signing a report which he should have known was falsified.

 

The building should have been secured, however it was well known that a stairway door was often left propped open as staff and some of the teachers would go through that door to go outside and smoke a cigarette, Cruz used that door to get into the building.

 

Peterson, as a SRO had special training for just such an event, however it is a well known BSO inside joke that SRO's are where older Deputies or those who can not cut it on the street get pigeonholed until they get a buyout, get fired after being arrested for molesting school children or retire.

A perfect example would be the Deputy who replaced Peterson, after just a couple of weeks on the job he was discovered by his supervisor sleeping in his patrol car versus being in the school.

These guys just don't take their jobs seriously.

 

Depends on seniority, Peterson could actually have been making more than a younger Deputy who was assigned to SWAT, keep in mind most SWAT teams are road patrol Deps who get called out when SWAT is activated.

 

Not since Columbine.

 

Very true, prior to Columbine SOP was to set up a perimeter and wait for SWAT, since then SOP has been arm up as much as possible go in and neutralize the shooter, this is one of the reasons many departments in the U.S. have active shooter training and once a LEO completes he is assigned a rifle commonly an AR-15.

 

Not sure that makes him a criminal though. This sets some bad precedents if it goes to trial and gets convictions. There is no way to test someone to see how they would react when it hits the fan. What's worse is the classic warning signs were there and totally ignored prior to the shooting, this looks like this coward is taking the fall or a boatload of other failures as well...

 

there was only one shooter

We’ve come a long way since the time there was a riot in a remote Texas town and they telegraphed Austin for the Texas Rangers

Soon after a train pulled into town and one Ranger got off

The city fathers asked was there only one Ranger?

To which the lawman replied isnt there only one riot?