Former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke Endorses Trump for President

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  1. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure what you are talking about. I feel that rules or conventions should be applied equally in both directions. I was merely pointing out the specious argument laid forth by the OP.
     
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    Makes sense, both trump and duke blame everything on brown people and pander to racists. They're like peas in a pod.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, I doubt Trump is going to have any kind words for them. I suppose he'll have to be careful of where campaign contributions come from...

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    I don't think that's true. Trump isn't against "brown people" - he's in favor of enforcing immigration laws and stopping the inflow of illegals. That's not racist and I'm tired of our national interests being so labeled.

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    Yep. The worst, most extreme and violent racists in this country are on the left, and all they can do is project upon the right.
     
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    They are utterly different.
     
  5. Brewskier

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    Your dad's "saying" doesn't keep it from being a guilt by association fallacy. The New Black Panther Party supported Obama for President, should Obama be judged by the New Black Panthers? Shall we explore your double standard, Shiva?

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    Your anti-racist efforts would be better spent on the recent call for the murder of whites and police officers by the BlackLivesMatter movement. For some reason, your emotional condemnations of racism are missing from those threads. Care to explain why that is?
     
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    oh, so you're defending Hitler's anti-Semitism??

    u think the Holocaust was a good thing? maybe a neccessary evil?
     
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    You've put a lot of words in my mouth.
     
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    OK, let me rephrase, whoever blames European-Americans with racism and profess in ideology of white guilt, that person is terrorist and supports cop killing.
     
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    what did your dad say about people who voted for Obama? Seeing as how they voted for a guy who kept company with an America hating bona fide nail bombing terrorist that attacked America.
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There is a fundamental difference. President Obama never pander or attempted to promote the Black Panther Party agenda while Donald Trump is promoting the

    There have been no calls for the murder of whites or police officers by the Black Lives Matter movement.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/opinion/the-truth-of-black-lives-matter.html?_r=0
     
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    He's doing no such thing. Even if he was, that wouldn't somehow exonerate Obama from the "company you keep" bromide that you mentioned. The fact is that black radicals supported Obama overwhelmingly.

    False:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/423109-black-activists-call-lynching-hanging-white-people-cops.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/423502-blm-its-open-season-killing-whites-white-police-officers.html

    I get it, Shiva. Racism from whites = bad. Racism from minorities = doesn't exist / has a good reason. It's the typical position held by "progressives".
     
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    Our immigration laws have always been based upon racism and White (WASP Male) Supremacy. Supporting our current immigration laws is inherently racist because those laws have always been based upon racism.

    Want to stop the inflow of "illegal" aliens? It's simple. Remove the all quotas and the criteria of immigration linked to US citizens that is inherently racist because roughly 70% of American citizens are white. Our current immigration laws perpetuate WASP Supremacy (racism) in the United States based upon the existing demographics of US citizens.

    Jefferson believed in the Right of Expatriation where a person had the right to immigrate from their native country of birth to another country to make it their adopted homeland. He believed the person had every right to effect this by any "act or declaration" even if 100% of the people of the nation opposed it.

    We should support the ideology of Washington, Madison, and Jefferson that all believed the United States should have "open borders" allowing immigration for anyone that would come here for peaceful purposes.
     
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    If our current immigration system was based on maintaining white male supremacy, then millions upon millions of impoverished non-whites wouldn't be flooding over the border on a yearly basis and having more children than the native population. If our current immigration system was based on maintaining white male supremacy, then whites wouldn't be becoming a minority in their own country.

    Source, please.
     
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    then that settles it. I knew it Obama is a black supremacist communist Muslim
    confirmed by the endorsement from Lois Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, The New Black Panthers, and the Communist Party of America
     
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    ROFLMAO - To actually think that using Breitbard, a radical right-wing opinion writer with a zero creditability rating, and a story about one person that claims to have a connection with Black Lives Matter as a source of information is truely laughable.
     
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    Obama invited the Muslim Brotherhood (terrorist organization) over to the White House for dinner.

    And the OP is complaining about some racist redneck who nobody knows.
     
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    Making blatantly false claims isn't much of an argument. If my information is correct we've had a zero change in total of "illegal immigrants in the United States for the last seven years.

    The Immigration Act of 1965, that abolished the "nationality quota system" that had historically provided basically open immigration for White Northern Europeans, predominately WASP, was hailed as one of the major pieces of civil rights rights legislation of the era. It allowed immigration from nations that literally had a zero quota under the prior "nationality" quota system.

    http://www.history.com/topics/us-immigration-since-1965

    Unfortunately the Immigration Act of 1965 merely replaced one racist critieria (national origin based upon the US census) with another racist criteria (US demographics based upon the US census) because, if I recall correctly, 90% of American citizens were white and predominately WASPs in 1965. Today roughly 70% of American citizens are white, predominately WASPs, and the racist discrimination under our immigration laws continues.

    We know the underlying reason why Trump and the Republicans are taking a tough line on immigration. It's because the immigrants are overwhelmingly Hispanic and that's racism pure and simple. It feeds on the anti-Hispanic racial prejudice of social conservatives in America today because they don't like "Mexicans" and don't want them in the country or for them to become US citizens. Only the racist seems to manage to ignore this obvious fact.
     
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    Which is the same one frequently used on Obama in regard to Rev Wright or Bill Ayres. (If you've not used it and/or are not conservative, I apologize.)

    In fact it's more justified with Trump who was endorsed by Duke. The Rev Wright or Bill Ayres never endorsed Obama during his campaign. He attended one's Church and was aware of the other one's existence while he was a community organizer, though he never met him.
     
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    “Our immigration laws have always been based upon racism and White (WASP Male) Supremacy.” (Shiva_TD)

    “The Immigration Act of 1965, that abolished the "nationality quota system" that had historically provided basically open immigration for White Northern Europeans, predominately WASP, was hailed as one of the major pieces of civil rights rights legislation of the era. It allowed immigration from nations that literally had a zero quota under the prior ‘nationality’ quota system.” (Shiva_TD)

    "Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated."

    My mother went to Washington DC for a conference and listened to the Johnson Administration explain how they were going to end racism by decreasing the white “pie slice.”

    My school at the time had no blacks, it closed a few years ago with 100% "colored" population.

    PS. Why not just admit you are a Democrat?
     
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    What a shock, dismissing the source because it's not left-wing enough for you. I guess that's easier than refuting the information, isn't it Shiva?
     
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    Your information is not correct, but even if it was, it doesn't refute what I said, at all. Our immigration policies couldn't possibly be made to maintain white male supremacy if they allow for whites to become minorities in their own country. That's the opposite of maintaining white supremacy.

    It's actually 63% today, so down nearly 30% in 50 years. Somehow that's still too "racist" for social justice warriors. Is the population of whites not falling fast enough for you guys? What percentage of whites is acceptable to the anti-white "progressive" base?

    I'll agree with that. If we were smart, we would have an immigration system that would keep "Mexicans" from becoming the majority in the US. Look at Mexico. Why would any sane person want our country to resemble Mexico? You just want the Democrat Party to succeed. That's your motivation.

    You guys seem incapable of understanding that a "country" is only as strong as its people. If we keep flooding the country with the poorest, neediest, and most uneducated people in the Western hemisphere, then our country becomes poorer, needier, and uneducated. Why would we want that to happen?
     
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    Barack Obama chose to associate with the terrorsit Bill Ayres and the racist Jerimiah Wright. Donald Trump has no voluntary relationship with David Duke. You do see the difference, don't you?
     
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    Some bristle at the reports of neo-nazis and white supremacists supporting and endorsing Trump, and demand that everyone ignore them.

    Others reasonably ask "Why are they supporting him"

    What is it about him that makes him so attractive to them?
     
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    He is an avid opponent of illegal immigration from anywhere. If Fusion magazine says that many of the Latinas who are coming here are being raped in route who do you suppose is raping them? Are there no illegal drugs coming across our southern border?
     

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