Formula one fascism

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  1. moon

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    Nauseating hypocrisy from the US of AIPAC and its European sycophants. Australia and Canada too are mute in the face of Bahrain's repression of democratic reform. Doesn't it just echo the silence surrounding Israel's illegal repression of Palestinians ? You are urged to condemn Iran. Why ? Because you've had lies served up and you are required to swallow them. You are urged to condemn Syria. Why ? Because you've been told that the problems are entirely one-sided and that Assad is responsible for all of them. You are instructed to ignore neozionist fascism in Israel and you mustn't criticize dynastic fascism in Bahrain. Your government knows what is good for you. It overlaps perfectly with whatever is good for it.
     
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    Absolutely; but money talks, and you can be (*)(*)(*)(*) sure that it's cash and the terrifing thought of the multi-millionaire racing team owners losing some which is at the forefront of their minds...forget human rights, because you can be certain that they have in their quest for even more cash.
     
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    I know how this works, Moon.

    If we did start complaining about Bahrain, then suddenly, the forum would be swept up with conspiracy theories about our real motivations.

    The best thing we can do is to stay out of Syria and Bahrain and every other internal conflict in the Middle East. People will still blame us no matter what we do, but at least this approach will be cheaper than getting involved.
     
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    If they are going to blame us anyways we might as well go there and take their resources.
     
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    It's a disgrace and shame on any driver or team who competes when doctors and nurses are being tortured and imprisoned for working a shift saving lives. CNN guy being interviewed earlier ran a poll and they announced that it was 100% !!!! :shocked: and he was shocked too that they were against it taking place!!! 100% AGAINST!!!

    Down with Dictator Khalifa Hamad and his thieving family and friends and supporters!!!
     
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    Neozionist pressure on Washington will ensure involvement in Syria . However, it will have to be covert involvement as it's never going to get through the Security Council. It will probably fall to somebody stupid, like Sarkozy's France or Cameron's UK , to do the covert deeds, as they did in Libya, because Daddy Bear is watching this one.
     
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    No proof required, even when they're semi-obscured by sectarian cryptid tossers. :mrgreen:
     
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    Shameless disgusting unelected dictators is what they are
     
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    Formula 1 should be ashamed of itself for holding a Grand Prix in Bahrain but they are not too bothered where they hold those things as long as the money keeps rolling in. Not a lot of comment from western governments on the situation there at all but I guess that all comes down to them being our supposed friends,so they can do whatever they want.
     
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    The thing is, for the most part the media focus on Syria, but the killing of Bahraini's as a proportion of the total population is greater in Bahrain than it is in Syria. The affects of this Grand Prix in terms of the propaganda is to basically say to the rest of the world, that everything in Bahrain is fine. Formula 1 are legitimizing this brutal regime and its discusting.

    I heard George Galloway being interviewed by the BBC the other day and they asked what his views were on Syria. He turned it around by saying to the interviewer why she was asking him about Syria and not Saudi Arabia or Bahrain? She had no answer. It was kind of left hanging in the air. But of course, we all know the real answer to that question.
     
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    Do you feel the same way about Qatar getting the World Cup in 2022 despite having some seriously anti-gay policies?
     
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    There are similarities. Qatar appears to have bribed officials. Qatar is a dynastic monarchy. Qatar is not a fit venue.
     
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    I know we disagree on a lot of things, but I have to give you credit for being consistent. I'm not too pleased with FIFA's decision either.
     
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    In an ideal world - and I'm an idealist- the drivers wouldn't drive and the soccer players wouldn't sock. Bahrain would dive and Qatar would suck.
     
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    Perhaps, but we know that oil makes the difference.

    I just like the idea of limiting foreign policy to business decisions. Leave the civil wars and protests up to individuals within their own countries.
     
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    The only reason why F1 is still in Bahrain is because of money. The only reason why the football world cup will be held in Russia and then Qatar is because of money. Money talks, it opens door. FIA and FIFA is all about capitalism and all about the money. They do not care about individuals, unless they have billions and/or have influence. The drivers and the footballers have no say in the matter. They are like solders in a war or burger flippers at McDonalds, or bag packers at Wal-Mart. They risk their lives so the generals, the chiefs, the organisers, the moneymen, the CEOs can make more and more money. More money than they will ever need.

    So F1 is not fascist - its capitalist.
     
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    Sport should never be confused with politics.

    As where does it stop, Who gets to decide where sport meeting should take place. And to what extreme. If the owner of ferrari had a failed marriage with a american lady, does this mean all events in usa are off.

    It is a thin line once start calling off sport for bias.
     
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    Sport and politics, as much else is, are inextricably linked. Your failed marriage/ferrari analogy is daft. The line to be drawn is clear. Global sporting events should not be allowed in oppressive regimes because it legitimizes them. I'm opposed to the world cup being played in Qatar on that basis.
     
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    This is the same nonsense that nearly derailed the olympics for decades when america and russia kept threatening to not attend due to nonsense political battling.

    As the problem with this, there will be always views to countries and goverments that people disagree with. But this is about sport and not political bias.
     
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    Human rights and basic freedoms trump arguments about political bias and are universal aspirations.
     
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    This is the F1 and not a meeting with the UN.

    Just fast cars racing around a track. Which i enjoy watching. Screw the politics.
     
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    But, as much as you try, you cannot divorce the two. There was no crowd watching it. By allowing this to take place legitimizes the brutal regime. Why can't you grasp that?
     

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