Fox News and Trumps Big Lie

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes. You need evidence. 2,000 Mules was full of complete bull ****. It didn't even show video evidence of its central claims. Crying that you can't substantiate your accusations is isn't an excuse.
     
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    Nope...... reasonable suspicion is all needed to start an investigation... which never happened.. 2000 mules, CybryNinja and the signed affidavits is all that is needed to start investigations
     
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    NBC Reports, "Steve Bannon, a former top adviser to Donald Trump, unloaded a torrent of attacks here Friday on Fox News and its leader, Rupert Murdoch — a sign of escalating tension between the former president's political network and Murdoch's conservative media empire.

    "You've disrespected Donald J. Trump long enough," Bannon, who hosts a popular right-wing podcast, said of Murdoch in remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference, which was heavily attended by Trump-loyal Republicans.

    "Murdoch, you’ve deemed Trump’s not going to be president," Bannon added at the close of his fiery speech. "Well, we’ve deemed that you’re not going to have a network. Because we’re going to fight you every step of the way."
     
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    These are difficult days for Donald Trump and Fox News.

    NBC reports, "Two progressive groups want the Federal Election Commission to investigate Fox Corp. and former President Donald Trump's 2020 campaign for breaking campaign finance laws.

    "On Friday, End Citizens United PAC filed a complaint with the FEC arguing that Fox Corp. chair Rupert Murdoch broke the law when he shared Joe Biden's campaign ad and debate strategy with Trump adviser Jared Kushner.

    "The exchange of confidential information was first made public this week in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case against Fox News and the Fox Corp. According to a filing citing Murdoch's sworn deposition, the Fox boss admitted to providing a preview of the ads with Kushner before they were public, as well as sharing Biden's debate strategy during the 2020 campaign."
     
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    I use to love Fox News. Now I look at it and can’t stand the overt partisanship. It should be called the Republican Party Propaganda Network. I am one of those that says conservatism left me as the Republican Party is not the GOP I use to respect.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then.... Please go on back to the fake CNN and Wapo with their ""people familiar with the issue and anonymous sources, unidentified people familiar with the people involved, and a U.S. official familiar with the matter.....coming from a fake news source (maybe CNN, maybe not) with extremely well-placed unnamed sources...""... at lease Fox has credible named sources...
     
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    No, I'm not. You're the one calling for an investigation. I'm good with the fact.
     
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    Cyber Ninjas and 2000 Mules isn't credible or even competent.

    0-60 in election lawsuits.
    Certified election results in every state.
     
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    Irrelevant.

    The issue I was responding to was Dominion demonstrating damages in the lawsuit against Fox News.
     
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    Don’t like CNN nor Wapo among others for the same reason I do not like Fox News. I reject partisan news sources as they are in the business of being breeding grounds for extremism, division and hate.
     
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    Cyber Ninjas and 2000 Mules is very credible and competent. There has been no credible and thorough investigations to prove them wrong..

    0-60 of no investigations into election fraud in any state... Please show the investigation reports into election fraud...
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    You'll have to do your own homework on any claims by any of them... So what is your preferred source of news and why do you think they deserve your attention...
     
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    I prefer moderate sources that focus more on reporting than commentary. This is important to me as the commentary tends to be biased, Don Lemmon of CNN and Tucker Carlson on Fox News as examples. I also use a wide range of sources and rely upon no single one. I do view partisan sources from time to time as it is the best way to get a partisan perspective. But mainly I use more moderate sources and am always on the lookout for better sources. Currently ABC, CBS, USA Today and The Hill are common sources. I also like the NBC Nightly News but it definitely has a liberal slant. I am OK with a little conservative or liberal slant as perfection is impossible. The National Review seems to becoming more moderate which I like. Also I find that the foreign press can at times be much more objective about American affairs than traditional American news sources.

    As for homework, I buy books written by people with PhD’s and tend to read multiple books on a given subject. I also watch lectures online, watch documentaries and read articles as I assume most of us do.
     
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    Yes. Ron DeSantis is pushing through legislation to require bloggers with negative opinions of him to register with the state. However, he is not the topic of this thread.
     
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    When did you stop beating your wife? Prove to me you don't have sex slaves stored in a warehouse.
     
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    Please show what other election audits performed by Cyber Ninjas.
    Please show the raw data upon which 2000 Mules was based for an independent analysis.

    0-60 in lawsuits where the plaintiffs representing the Orange Stain mostly withdrew the proffered "affidavits".

    "Giuliani said we've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence."
     
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    ""Giuliani said we've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence"" you seem to not realize where the "evidence" is physically located and who has possession of it... election fraud evidence material is under lock and key by the accused... Do you really think the poll worker claiming questionable ballots was literally going to steal a ballot to take to court later? Do you think parking lot security video would be collected by the man claiming questionable activity there, or how about him standing around with his cell phone video taping it, do you think they would allow that at a polling station? Nope...
    Where there investigations into it?


    CN..... I only need to show you one... you show us any audits by anyone else using the same database to contest CN's findings..
    but Arizona.... once again, goes after CN claiming their own election dept was not to be questioned while CN showed the world how the Maricopa county findings were full of holes..
    and once again... the Maricopa county audits did not use the Maricopa data base while the CN did... and all this without any investigation.
    https://www.independentsentinel.com...ricopa_County_Analysis_of_Senate_Report-1.pdf

    2000 mules provides the reasonable doubt needed to start an investigation into election fraud...an honest and thorough investigation will produce the "raw data" you seek..

    And remember .... Maricopa county official tried to remove and hide the election data (archive) when actually deleting it before handing it over to CN.... how cute.... admitted to it right in the hearing.... were they held accountable? Nope...
    https://rumble.com/vnitu4-maricopa-county-admits-they-deleted-database.html

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    2,000 Mules provided no reasonable suspicion, and the Cyber Ninjas came up with nothing. And please provide detail about those signed affidavits. I've asked for years and you guys always run and hide when I do so. I've seen affidavits . . . none of which actually substantiate anything so far. And Trump's own lawyers admitted that their method of collecting affidavits had resulted in false reports.
     
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    as a letist i know when trump or anybody else is lying, simply by using the entire internet for information, its been apparent many RWs use mostly their own media outlets ALL preslanted towards the RW view, wake up and use the whole tool you are reading this thread on please and quit relying on others to spoon feed you information, use some of that rugged individualism you all boast about and do your own work to gather information
     
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    Your the one wanting "raw data"... where is the investigation to collect Dinesh D'Souza "raw data" ... Dinesh D'Souza explains their methodology in the movie..... but ..... let me guess....... you did not watch the movie... so you don't know "reasonable suspicion" when you see it, or don't see it in your case...

    Here is a bunch of affidavits
    https://hereistheevidence.com/
    https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7487/3. EXHIBIT 1 (affidavits) (compressed).pdf


    and no we have not been hiding affidavits on here either..

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    I did watch the movie. It was hot garbage, for several reasons that you would have known if you had actually applied some critical thinking to your beloved fake "documentary."

    1) The "research group" D'Souza (a convicted election fraudster himself) used LIED about having solved a cold murder case for the FBI. They just outright lied about it to boost their cred.
    2) D'Souza and his lying "research group" LIED about the accuracy of their tracking data. Hell, they even used FAKE ****ING MAPS in the movie.
    3) Despite having tons of video footage, D'Souze FAILED to find ANY video footage that backed up his core claim: that there were "mules" visiting multiple ballot boxes. There was NO video footage of the same person visiting more than one box. NO video footage. Pathetic.
    4) ALL that the "raw data" showed was that there were people who passed within 100 meters or so of multiple ballot boxes . . . when ballot boxes are PURPOSEFULLY PUT IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS . . . and their fake "research" DIDN'T USE A ****ING CONTROL GROUP. A junior high student who passed their science classes knows why this is bull ****.

    Can you identify the affidavits from people who actually claimed that they had witnessessed voter fraud. You are going to have to do better than the "I saw people who kind of looked liberal volunteering" and the "Well, a time-travelling psychic told me" kinds of "evidence" that we've heard from previous "witness accounts." Yes, you guys have been hiding affidavits. Your beloved Giuliani claimed to have hundreds of them, but refused to reveal their contents.
     
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    You did not watch the movie, then stop posting your misinformation and stuff you have no idea what you are talking about... show us the investigative report into D'Souza movie proving it legit or not... I don't just take your word for it...

    A signed affidavit is done under penalty of perjury.. show us the people arrested and charged for filing false claims to the court for lying about what they saw...
    holler if you need more..
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    I did watch it. Quote even one thing I got wrong.

    And people lie on affidavits all of the time. Even Trump's own legal team admitted that their collection methods had resulted in false testimony. In court.
    If you want to get into specifics, then pick which one you want to talk about first and we will talk about it.
     
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    So , once again, you have no EVIDENCE. All the conjecture in the world is no substitute for EVIDENCE.

    CN is incompetent. Show any competent work they did on any other election analysis. Their "findings" are meaningless.

    2000 Mules is , at best, unsupported conjecture. It might as well be fiction. In fact, it IS fiction until an honest and thorough investigation.........into the production of 2000 Mules , including their raw data.
     
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