Freddie Gray Arresting Officer Edward Nero Found Not Guilty On All Charges

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  1. GeddonM3

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    Contemplating if I should catch a flight to Baltimore for the pre-4th of July show.
     
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    Dems bus them in. Obama gives them free phones.
     
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    You mean the same state that had the Prosecution and DA? Sorry there is no conspiracy here.
     
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    It will be a vibrant multicultural extravaganza.
     
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    I doubt there will be riots. Even these dummies know the Trump train is coming. Hell, they think Trump is going to take away their food stamps. Even Louis Farah con job was smart enough to kiss Trump butt.
     
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    Trump would issue full ammo to the national guard and tell them no warning shots.
     
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    sure he does
     
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    [video=youtube;tpAOwJvTOio]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio[/video]
     
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    It's in the autopsy report that says it's a homicide. So there is indeed a perpetrator. It could always be that justice is not running the course that it should be.

    I read the other day that the racist prosecutes deliberately made the jury all white to get a black dude the death penalty. Took 29 years to correct that. Leaves you to wonder, how often did they get away with it.
     
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    In autopsy reports the word "homicide" simply means likely caused by man. Autopsy reports classify apparent suicides as homicide.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    You shouldn't be, rare is the time they are guilty despite the wishes of the BLM-Anti-Police movements. You would have preferred a person who engaged in no wrongdoing be convicted anyway?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    He said he was making a great commotion and that he had stood up because the banging of his head against the dividing wall was not on the floor level but up where he had to be standing where it would be his head not his arse. I would characterize someone beating their head against a metal partition wall attempting to injure themselves............how about you?
     
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    Suggest you read or listen to the excerpts of the Judges Ruling. He says there was no wrongdoing on the part of the officer. It is a stinging refuting of the prosecutor.

    Even before the verdict in the closing arguments the Judge was going after the prosecution on it's lack of a case.

    "Williams grilled prosecutors during closing arguments last Thursday, questioning whether a crime was in fact committed by Nero.

    “So, every time there’s an arrest without probable justification, it is a crime?” Williams asked.

    “We believe that the search and arrest without justification are assault, your honor,” Deputy State’s Attorney Janice Bledsoe responded. “There’s no question about that.”

    Legal experts say the tone of Williams’ pointed questions during closing arguments gave an indication it would be an uphill battle for prosecutors to win their case against Nero."
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/verdict-expected-freddie-gray-officer-trial/story?id=39302249
     
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    This isn't even remotely how the justice system works…
     
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    No, he wouldn't. What is SO angering Democrats now is that Trump is proving he is quite tempered and thinks things out, which then includes adjusting his viewpoints to moderation when more careful thought warrants it. Mostly, Trump would let states and local governments deal with their own problems - exactly as the constitution says. NONE OF THIS is a FEDERAL ISSUE. If there are riots, it is the problem of local and state government. Its got NOTHING to do with the federal government, nothing whatsoever.

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    The state's attorney is an idiot. Wrongful arrest and detention is NOT an assault. That is a really extra stupid statement. Circumstantially it MIGHT be "official oppression," but it is NOT "assault."
     
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    To chase a black man, beat him, cuff him, throw him in a car, where he dies....
    for the reason of "giving you some look"....

    I wouldn't know why it can not be assault.
    Really. I don't want to be a victim of killer cops when their fool prove defense is: he gave me this look.
     
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    It is nice that you guys get all warm and fuzzy when a cop gets acquitted after being involved in the death of an unarmed black person. I guess it's the little things that make life worth living...
     
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    Thanks for admitting its all about skin color to you... or you wouldnt have mentioned it.
     
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    It is high time the States Attorney General step in and get this out of control city government and prosecutor under control and remove her from the case and turn it over to some competent DA's for a ground up review of the case and make recommendations on how to proceed.

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    So nothing of substance to add just insults to hurl........................gotcha :thumbsup:

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    Listen to what the judge stated and then you will now and some of you fallacious beliefs will be cleared up.
     
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    Most Likely all of the officers in the Freddie Grey case will be found not guilty. Why? Because there is reasonable doubt. None of us were there when all of this happened, and there are no valid witnesses who saw what happened either. Therefore, this establishes reasonable doubt, and who is to say that these officers are guilty or not.
    With that said, due to the extent of the injuries to Freddie Greys body, there probably about a 98% chance that he didn't break his own neck and back. But, the other 2% is reasonable doubt, so he could have slammed his head into the wall of the police wagon too hard, which in turn created the broken neck. And, he could have damaged his back running from the police, and then later the police made the back injury even worse by the way they handled him. There are many scenerios to this case that could have happened, and this is what creates reasonable doubt. And, there were six police officers involved, and we don't know who did what, or if any of them did anything to cause his death at all. Personally, I believe there was foul play involved, and that the policemen/woman involved caused Freddie Greys death. However, none of us were there, so reasonable doubt will most likely save all of them from a guilty charge, and prison. However, God knows what happened, and on the day of their deaths, judgement will be waiting for them all..
     
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    All the autopsy report tells us is what killed him but now how that happened, that would be speculation not fact. For instance the medical examiner stated he fell, after he got himself up after being told to stay on the floor thus putting HIMSELF in danger of injury, fell after a "sudden" acceleration or deceleration. But the medical examiner would have no way of knowing even there WAS a "sudden" acceleration or deceleration and in fact the other passenger gave a statement that there WASN'T any sudden movement by the driver who was very experienced in his job.

    AND in fact when was being cross examined tried to deny she had made such a declaration or that she had any evidence of such movement by the van

    "Allan wrote in the report that Gray's injuries suggested he had gotten up sometime between the second and fourth van stop, lost his balance due to an "unexpected turning motion, acceleration or deceleration" and was unable to brace himself because of his wrists and ankles were restrained.

    Murtha questioned the findings.

    "Do you have any facts, anything that's documented, between stops two and four?" Murtha asked.

    "Other than he was injured, no," Allan replied.

    When asked about the van's speed or the possibility of a sudden deceleration, she said "there's no evidence, because there are no witnesses."

    "So you sort of made up this thing that you're calling evidence?" Murtha said.

    "I didn't call it evidence," she said.

    Allan added that Porter's lack of buckling Gray into a seat belt was "not a primary concern," when considering the man's injuries, perhaps an important admission considering the state's position that Porter's failure to secure Gray in a belt amounts to criminal negligence.

    Allan also said that if the wagon driver, Caesar Goodson, had taken Gray to the hospital immediately after Porter had asked him to she would not have ruled Gray's death a homicide."
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/0...ie-gray-death-homicide-if-driver-went-to.html

    And that last part makes no sense at all, if I purposely shoot you but take you to the hospital where you then die does that mean I didn't commit murder?

    And she states there were no witnesses WELL YES THERE WERE, the other passenger, but she came to a conclusion that brought charges while admitting she no witnesses to that effect and had no evidence to that affect, it was baseless speculation but desperately needed in order to bring charges. SHE should be charged with issuing a false report and removed from her position.

    The ME is as incompetent as the mayor and the DA all three of which were out to get the officers at all cost.
     
  23. US Conservative

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    Yes, I seem to remember the national guard would be called in by the governor.
     
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    When will taxpayer money stop being wasted when some druggie thug gets killed?
     
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    No. You found a prosecutor saying that and citing the autopsy as evidence, jebus its the first line.

    Medical examiners aren't crime investigators-they give their findings and the prosecution uses it to determine what happened.
     

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