Free Nadiya Savchenko!

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  1. MrFirst

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    Where is Nadiya now? She is in Ukrainian prison.
     
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    I worry for Nadiya. Is she ok?
     
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    she compared herself to Jesus .... okay I think you need not worry, she will be back in three days :lol:
     
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    I’m curios about what happened to her. She acts like she lost her mind.
     
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    Seeing the Ukro-crazies up close, as her position in the Rada enabled her to do, undoubtedly had something to do with it.
     
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    Some guy in the link above compared her to Joan of Arc - when she was in Russian prison.
    I don't remember that anybody laughed at her then. But now she's funny. Now she lost her mind. Ok,ok...
     
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    Yes it is typical of politicians.... Joan of Arc when it suits me.... criminal when it doesn't. Russia did get two military officers for her so at least there's that for Russia. One crazy woman for two military officers... big score.
     
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    Double standards. When she was in prison in Russia, everyone in the West screamed that Russia violates human rights and she is a hero. Now, when she is in prison in Ukraine, West is silent or says that she is crazy. West is complaining that political opponents are supressed in Russia . When the same happens in Ukraine- that is fine. Double standards.
     
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    Two different scenario's, she's not even disputing the video evidence of planning a coup.. in fact she even said she believes that is what Ukraine needs. A bit difficult to keep someone out of jail when they not only confess but also provide motive.

    As for when Russia jailed her, she was an unknown... pilot captured performing her duties, she should have taken her medal and lived her life in hero worship. Now that I think of it, flipping the bird at a Russian judge was a good indication of ill mental health....
     
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    Agree.
    She is either very stupid (low IQ), or has mental issues.
     
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    Hmm ... what she's saying is much the same as the admitted snipers.

    Ukrainian people to protect the Ukrainian land and certainly not the Ukrainian authorities …,” she said. “I know that there are a lot of servicemen who are listening to me who absolutely agree with the view that a military coup in Ukraine is rather expected and probably a fairly correct development.”

    After making her admission, however, Ms. Savchenko issued a stunning rebuke of the authorities. She accused Mr. Lutsenko and other lawmakers of arranging the deaths of the “Heavenly Hundred,” the protesters killed by sniper’s bullets during the 2014 Maidan Revolution that deposed pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Russia.

    Mr. Lutsenko “issued a call to go on the offensive from the podium,” she said. “He promised weapons. I saw armed people arriving in a blue van. Those people are now in the parliament,” she said. She said she saw Rada Speaker Andriy Parubiy “leading the snipers to the Hotel Ukraine from which shots were later fired.”
     
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    She threatened to blow up the VR and kill off half the deputies. She's gone off her nut. One needs to take these threats seriously.
     
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    If she threatened the Rada, then there's some mental illness...give her a strait jacket and sedation to cool her jets:)).
     
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    This is what I know about Nadiya and the situation in Ukraine.

    1- Nadiya was upset that there wasn't a prisoner exchange so the captives could be freed.
    2- Nadiya was upset when the hero of Donbas Givi was assassinated, because the people in Donbas would never want to rejoin Ukraine because of it.

    Right now in Ukraine there is friction between the Nazis and Poroshenko. Torchlight Nazi parades have always been held in Lviv and Kiev, but one was held in Odessa last week and the anti semitism was rabid. The situation is getting worse, and the Rabbis in Israel are telling the Jews that Ukraine is not safe, and to leave before the pogroms start.

    Poroshenko is very hated and his position is very precarious. There have been many attempted coups and protests to get rid of him these past years, so Nadiya is not the only one. Recently, Poroshenko has broken the Minsk agreement and is preparing for war - which might be his only means of survival.

    Considering the situation in Ukraine, it is understandable why the controlling mafia would want to hush up Nadiya.
     
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    Nadiya is a very heroic person, stupid but heroic. She knows damn well the kind of criminals she is dealing with. I guess now that the snipers from Georgia have come forward, she feels she can say what she knows about the event.

    Other than the snipers, there is also the telephone call between Catherine Ashton and the Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas. If you get to 8:00 you will hear the FM tell Ashton that the same snipers were killing both police and protesters.

     
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    Very interesting, when the coup in 2014 happened it was OK. Noone said, that Yatsenuk, or Poroshenko are crazy. When she said, that it would be good to have a new people in Parliament, she became immediately crazy. I do not think she is crazy, she saw the war with her eyes, and she knows what she is talking about, not like you or me, or anyone else in this forum.
     
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    No one said Savchenko is crazy for claiming Ukraine needs new people to run the country. She is crazy because she did things towards overturning current government by violent means. She didn’t even deny that.
    And again, there was no coup in 2014, repeating it does not make it true.
     
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    A? 2014 was exactly overturning the legal government and president. It was a coup with a lot of people killed, with an actual president who had to run away being threatened to be killed. Legally would be if he was impeached. But that was not the case. It was a staged coup financed by US. Meanwhile, what exactly Savchenko did? Nothing. She only spoke. And she got imprisoned for talking and not acting.
     
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    Oh, then Yatsenuk was elected, and wasn't chosen by Nuland and Pyatt? Thanks for letting us all know.

    Let me refresh your memory. The day before Yanukovich was forced to run for his life, a document was signed by the EU, Yanukovich and the head of the opposition that he was to remain in office until December. If running for one's life is not a coup then what is? Yanukovich wasn't the only one though, all the Rada members who refused to go along with the coup left as well. There were threats not only on their lives, but on their families as well.

    Here are two videos of the talk between Asst. Sec. of State Victoria Nuland, and Ambassador Pyatt. The telephone call is about who they will put in as president of Ukraine, and it occurred while Yanukovich was still in office. I was surprised to find out that the part where Nuland says: "Yats is the guy," (to be president of Ukraine), was left out of the first video, but you can hear her say it in the second video by the investigative reporter Robert Parry.

    Needless to say, Yatsenuk was eventually kicked out for stealing large sums of money from the Ukrainian treasury.




     
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    She compares herself to Jesus...how can she possibly know what she is talking about
     
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    She's comparing her righteous stance and the persecution she's been undergoing because of it to Jesus. I can understand that.

    Nadiya is a hero, and has been at the front. She has seen the suffering, and doesn't want to see more Ukrainian boys dying for Poroshenko and his criminal ilk.
     
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    yes I totally understand how you can relate to the Jesus comment... is your sandals wet from all the walking on water?
     
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    Sure, because she talks something about Jesus (actually I did not hear this directly from her mouth, only what Ukranian mass media says, which can not be considered true). Because of this- she is crazy and and has to be sent to the prison. Simply rediculous. You know, this techique which now use Ukranian government is the same one that was used in Soviet Union, when all people who had a different opinion from the official one were considered crazy and could be sent to a mad house.
     
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    when someone talks about blowing up the Rada and killing deputies, you take it serious considering the country is at war with moskali terrorists in the east...veezko.
     

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