Freedom of information revelation

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Some of you have followed Dr. John Campbell through this whole CF as he has been extremely unbiased and merely reported data with no emotion. He never advocated against the vaccine nor totally advocated for a single form of treatment. He merely goes over data and explains it in laymen terms.

    Apparently, even the UK has their own FOI which was done and the information was released recently. This tells a vastly different story that the fear mongers have been pushing.

    It makes more sense than EVER why Boris Johnson lifted ALL restrictions in the UK.
    This is HUGE information and I suspect that the same percentage of error that the UK initially reported, could easily be applied here in the states and Canada.

     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Golly, does this mean the government was inciting fear with exaggerated numbers?
     
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    Ironically, the numbers Dr. Campbell tell a vastly more realistic story that the narrative has been telling. You can already see the bottom falling out on the narrative in this country.
     
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    The government does whatever is in its interest every time. Power and control are high on government's priority list so numbers that justify authoritarianism should be expected. We need to find a way to get CDC away from government and find a way for it to thrive in the private sector. Perhaps the states could fund it by subscribing to its services. There is no need for anything related to health and medicine to exist in federal government.
     
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    However he basing this on a fallacy within his statistics. The overall death rate not only reflects COVID deaths but those people unable to be treated in a timely manner because the hospitals were overwhelmed

    As for the death certificates where only COVID was listed? That does not factor in the huge rise in mortality seen in post operative patients who had or caught COVID within 8 weeks of surgery. Those patients will not be listed in the “COVID only” group and they are a group that would have survived if they had not gotten COVID
     
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    Does not look that way to me. Cancer patients added 50,000 to the death toll and as he stated, cancer patients have missed routine appointments due to the fear of catching Covid at the medical center.

    This is in line with family and friends who are in the medical field have relayed to me. They are seeing sicker patients because people have waited to seek health care because of the fear of catching Covid from entering a hospital/clinic.

    Why did it take a freedom of information request to get this data in the first place? Fear mongering kills.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. Dr. Campbell is very thorough and objective.
     
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    Err that was one of my points actually not to mention the inability to do Cardiac Bypass, routine ICU operations etc etc etc
     
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    And yet, you and he would not know if the cancer patients wouldn't have caught Covid and died from it had they come into the
    hospital. The Doctors numbers are all conjecture - predicated on perfect outcomes. Life just doesn't happen that way.
     
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    He actually is not an MD but a Nurse with a PHD
     
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    Why are you ignoring the freedom of information request? The 17,000 figure is pretty dam low.
     
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    You are ignoring the freedom of information request which points to the 17,000 figure. Vastly lower than all of the fear mongering projections.
     
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    He has a PhD. He is a doctor. So, you dismiss that because his research findings differ from your ideology based views.

    Politfact is a left leaning biased website. No wonder they dismiss this. Shocking!
     
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    That is called a Doctor. Sorry, but your elitist snobbery does not work here.
     
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    What a piece of garbage this thread is.

    The OP and UK Doctor do not know that Republicans on this site have already created several threads about the CDC 6% of death certificates had no additional causes of death but Covid.
     
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    Stop the hypocrisy......

    The Doctor in the video is revealing Government numbers, thus, numbers you don’t trust, however, valid when you want to prove a point.

    Thus, stop the hypocrisy.
     
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    He’s certainly not the one who completes the death certificate.

    Also, he believes that he made a major discovery through his “freedom of obtaining information Act, whereas in the U.S., the same info the UK Doctor surprisingly discovered was publicly reported by the CDC, and then, taken out of context by our tiny brain people.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    But phooken stupid.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Hey, we’re not UK

    The 10 leading causes of death in the U.S, 2015 to 2020

    Source; Jamanetwork.com


    CANCER

    2015; 595,930 deaths

    2016; 598,038 deaths

    2017; 599,108 deaths

    2018; 599,274 deaths

    2019; 599,691 deaths

    2020; 598,932 deaths.......Minus 759 deaths
     
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    Too low

    if you read the Politifact article it explains the error and although he makes light of it the BBC also pulled him up on this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

    https://www.bbc.com/news/60145237
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    I will soon expose your real IQ, and it will depress you.

    Let’s begin.....

    True or False

    Both the Flu and Covid are mainly “underlying causes of death.
     
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    I stopped listening after about the first few seconds after he made a nonsense claim. Hey did you not know that no one has ever died due to a knife stabbing? Yep, that sort of nonsense
     
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    Clearly you did not watch the video. And you ignore the FOI request to get these numbers. One can only wonder what IQ you lack to ignore that.

    Good news, the UK is ending the mask requirement and vaccine passports.
     

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