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From Nanny State To Orwell’s ‘Big Brother’

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XXJefferson#51, May 17, 2020.

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Nobody did it for the entire country
     
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    I am sorry they fell short.
     
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  3. Daniel Light

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    Just try and approach Trump without thorough testing and a mask these days ...
    Just try and ignore protocol on any of the military bases that Trump is CIC in charge.
     
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  4. struth

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    Huh? Only radical leftist would criminalize it and have hot lines to have people call in to eat people out
     
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    I'm trying to figure out how you arrived at the decision it was about you. I didn't put you there- you did. Do you think I should have expressly stated that of course, something to make sure you wouldn't put yourself there? Some kind of exculpatory disclaimer so you wouldn't do that?

    You are wrong; I did not put you there- nor did I think you were there. But I do think thou doth protest too much....
     
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  6. struth

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    Why would I want to do that?
     
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    Right, except all we hear is the Dems being blamed for social distancing which clearly isn’t true. Each state had some type of social distancing going on. Which means even Repub controlled states. Just pointing that out for people like you
     
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    They are to blame for the criminalization of it and the over reach of power with it
     
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    You made a sweeping generalization to me and never excluded me from it. You’re the one who seems to be protesting too much. Hahaha.
     
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    You claimed that Trump didn't criminalize the guidelines - but in the areas he has direct control (military bases, ships, the White House) he did just that.
     
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    No he didn’t. It’s not a crime to not have a mask on at the White House...congress has made no laws creating it to be. Try again
     
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    The Secret Service enforces all the President's requests for security (testing at the gate and masks) as law. The President
    commands the military, and all directives from the President are enforced as law and the President's current directives to the military are per CDC guidelines.
     
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    Cool story....but that doesn’t mean not following the guidelines is a federal crime
     
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    That’s a different story than what I originally responded to and to which you then jumped on.
     
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    It is a crime to ignore the President's orders while in the military - it will get you arrested. The President's orders right now
    for the military are to follow the CDC guidelines.
     
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    My bad I thought we were discussing the OP
     
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    It’s always been a potential crime to not follow a commanding officers orders. You are really out in the weeds on this one
     
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    It's always been a potential crime to disregard a Governor's orders as well. Does that exonerate the governors from
    your charge of overreach? I know it's your job to bash only Democrats - but when the leaders on BOTH sides are making
    orders that criminalize ignoring CDC guidelines, is there really an argument here?

    The first Governor to open up his state was a Democrat (Montana). Is that some kind of proof the Republican governors are more authoritarian than the Democrats? Or is more a comment on population density?
     
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    No it’s not been. Well unless you are in the national guard
     
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    Mistakes happen. No worries
     
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    OK- I will try and remember is any post referring to anything unpalatable to include a statement thus:

    "Oh, and ECA didn't do it." That what you think you need?

    The fact that this struck you as inclusive of you makes me curious.
    I ask myself, IF a person has no connection to that mindset at all, why would they think it necessary to defend against a charge never made against them?
    That wasn't a question to you.. just what this situation prompts. It answers itself.
     
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    It doesn’t make you curious at all. You’re being quite disingenuous. But you know that.
     
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    Sorry, but you are 100% off-base. The post was not meant to be directed to you in any way, and I think any rational person would see that. You are CHOOSING to be offended without any cause.

    Why a person would do that- does indeed create questions, obviously ones you do not wish to ask yourself or explain.

    Just put me on ignore and protect yourself in the future from whatever it is that is triggering your reactions.
    I've certainly written you off as a person who's opinion I would give any weight to.
     
    spiritgide, May 17, 2020
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    Not offended at all. Just enjoying calling you out on your BS.
     
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    There was no enforced federal shutdown. Only recommended guidelines. Some states never did shut down.
     
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