The date: 08/03/2021 Subject of this thread: Donald Trump Why? He's not president. Why is Congress not busy representing their constituents when Trump is yesterday's news?
So? The IRS determines if someone is audited or not or if their returns are accurate or not or if they owe more money or not or if they have purposely committed criminal acts or not - not the House of Representatives.
Here you go. Law has been there for almost 100 yrs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_r...eral tax,mechanism to deny Congress's request. Under a 1924 federal tax law, § 6103 of Under a 1924 federal tax law, § 6103 of title 26 of the United States Code, Congress may request copies of anyone's tax returns.[96][97][98][99] The treasury secretary is legally obliged to provide the tax returns, and there is no apparent legal mechanism to deny Congress's request.
Doesn't change my post. The IRS determines if someone is audited or not or if their returns are accurate or not or if they owe more money or not or if they have purposely committed criminal acts or not - not the House of Representatives. Just another case of one party being in control of the House 218-217 being able to abuse their power. Harry Reid taught the right a few tricks several years ago and now Republicans are still learning how to play dirty from the Democrats. Odds are both the House and the Senate will turn red come the midterms. Paybacks are hell. What goes around comes around.
It is easy around here to know when an exchange has gone to pot! The one-liner responses abound .... !
THE US - TAX-SCAM HEAVEN? Unfortunately, the IRS isn't up to the task. There is not sufficient manpower to accomplish the above as you state. Plenty of individuals/families are getting away with falsifying their income and thus taxation level. The tax-payment scams are prolific. From IRS here: IRS unveils "Dirty Dozen" list of tax scams for 2020 PS: For those keen enough to go in to the details of IRS-fraud (in pdf) here: IRS Tax Crimes Handbook - Internal Revenue Service
Do yourself a favor and never call what someone else is sharing propaganda until you figure out that is what your sources are providing you. Here is a source even you should trust to bring you up to speed. https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/5603...or-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups
It doesn't counter my argument. Maybe you can post a better counter argument showing that it is the House's responsibility to get involved in American's tax lives, who gets audited, who does not, who's returns are correct and whose are not, who owes more and who does not, or who criminally cheated on their tax returns and who did not.
LOL. So, you're saying that it is up to the partisan House to become the IRS? How soon we forget how just a few short years ago Lois Lerner abused her power to go after conservatives for political retribution (and she got off with a slap on the wrist). Now we are giving the partisan House the ability to abuse their power in the same way, trying to claim that the IRS just isn't up to the job. The partisan House is going after one person and one person only. What about all of those other supposed tax cheats?
Maybe you can post a better counter argument showing that it is the House's responsibility to get involved in American's tax lives, who gets audited, who does not I just provided a link that allows Congress to see someone's taxes !!! Go to the conspiracy section.
That doesn't in any way prove that it is the House's responsibility to do the IRS's job. Can you please post a list of all the thousands of tax returns the House has decided to audit?
JFC..... You pick out one story and thats the whole thing ? The ENTIRE story is that republicans asked for a report from the IRS of groups who filed for 527 status, and "how they were flagged". The report came back that they used the terms "patriot" and "republican" among others. But while the right was feigning outrage that they actually had to follow the law, the left out that democratic 527 groups were also flagged, AND AUDITED. So you're outraged that "patriot" groups were targeted, yet you leave out that dem 527 groups were also "targeted". The "tragetting from the IRS was to target 527 groups, NOT "republican 527" groups.
No, it's not that simple. For the 1,205th time, Congress has to have a legitimate legislative purpose for requesting someone's individual tax returns. There's no legit purpose here. This is established case law. It's 110% political. To dumb it down a bit - liberals are saying that the dead skunk you're smelling on the side of the road is really a rose, and you should like it.
They're not doing the IRS's job. They're doing the House's job, which is oversight and to write law. You make think it's political, and it probably is. You may not like it. But that's the way the cookie crumbles. What the House is doing is well within its duty. This is much clearer than Vance's right to the records, and SCOTUS already ruled on Vance. The House is requesting the records because of this ruling. It's not a baseless investigation into a private individual. You can disagree with the law, but Congress has oversight over the IRS, so it would seem fundamentally constitutional for it to request tax returns in executing this oversight.
Oversight is just a fancy word for abuse of power. If Republicans take over the House at the midterms are you still going to believe that it's the House's job to provide "oversight" on Biden & Co.? The House doesn't need anyone's tax returns to write tax laws.
LOL. Let's see if you think the same thing when Republicans take over the House and use their "oversight powers" granted by the constitution.
Remember those basic civics when Republicans regain control of the House come midterms. Then, Republicans will be doing their basic civics duties.
THE DEMISE OF CIVICS INSTRUCTION IN THE US! The IRS is itself responsible for all you note above - and not Congress. Which only makes the laws that the IRS applies and executes. Nobody likes to pay taxes, but they are a central necessity to having a functional governance at the national, state and local levels. Which is simple logic for people who are not so simple and totally disconnected from the manner in which the US government works. More than likely because they have never had any competent instruction in the matter during High-School, when that should have happened! But they did not! From here: The State of Civics Instruction in the US Civics Instruction is key to both good-government and the willingness of citizens to vote-and-participate in their own governance ...
