From Russia to Great Britain, with love ...

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From Reuters here: In British PM race, a former Russian tycoon quietly wields influence

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    In our day and age, any Russkie-millionaire outside of Russia befriending politicians in a foreign country in which they live should give rise to great suspicions. All these Russian ex-proletariat billionaires got their money by bilking the state in some way or another.

    That is, they took what was rightfully the possession of all the Russian people when that country came apart with Gorbachev leading the charge to close-down Communist Party control of the government. Yeltsin continued the sell-off by making himself a very, very rich man.

    And ever since, it has been downhill for most Russians but greatly uphill for those who knew how to bilk the state when buying key companies in the Energy Industry. Those state-companies could have gone private by offering each Russian family an equal amount from the total of Russian shares (at market-value as of that date). These families could have then resold them on the stock-market (or kept them, if they wanted).

    But, no. Russia didn't do it that way. And today, an ex-KGB operative (Putin) that inveigled his way to the top after the collosal mishap of a country mismanaged by ex-Communist politico Yeltsin.

    Russia is a sad tale, and it all began with the overthrow of the Russian Czar. Who should have been overthrown and replaced, but not in the manner the Communists did it.

    There were plenty of chateaux in Switzerland for the Czar and his family - and his successors could have implemented a Russian Social Democracy based upon capitalism. Which perhaps would have made Russia (given its hoard of native intelligence and its natural wealth) an equal of the EU today.

    And the UK today is going to vote a PM into office with direct-ties to a Russian billionaire who might have an unknown relationship with Russia's billionaire-president Putin. (We don't really know, do we?)

    Whatever that means, Time Will Tell - it always does so ...

     
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    Frankly, I'm less worried about Russia's influence in the UK/ Westminster than I am about the influence of Israel and the USA in UK/Westminster. I think that Russia is much less likely to start WWIII.
     
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    Putin has been messing about in Europe. There are strange things happening, which all point back to him in Moscow:
    *The continued war in Syria because of a Russian Naval Base - the only one fully accessible to the Mediterranean Sea - in the home town of Syria's leader (who are population-wise a minority).
    *People he doesn't like living in the UK are being poisoned in their homes.
    *Russian hackers are being contended with on a daily basis as they try to break into secret military data-bases. The Cyber Attacks are relentless!
    *The Russians supposedly got rid of their "Tsar" in 1919, but Putin has established himself in the same capacity. He WILL find a way to stick-around after his present tenure in office ends. (And that's a total of 19 years.)

    And I am only scratching the bottom-of-the-barrel of Notorious Deeds. See the full number explained here: Russia–European Union relations

    Well, I can agree to that. But only because such an idiocy might likely compel the Russian people to finally "put him away" ...
     
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    Nope, sorry, your list still doesn't scare me as much as the USA and Israeli influence on the UK does.
     
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    What US and Israeli influence on the UK?

    Some evident examples please ...
     
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    The Israeli lobby's interference in UK politics generally but against Corbyn and the Labour Party in particular currently with their fake cries of anti-Semitism. Thinking the Israeli government is a disgrace to the human race is not anti-semitic...just fact....and the US involvement in Brexit........and then we have to whole US plus UK poodle "invade to change regimes to put in place people we think we can control and who will let us have their oil, and at the same time make a bit of profit for our armaments manufacturers and our constructions firms who go in and clean up the mess we make" propensity....plus the war on terrorism which might never have been necessary if not for the actions of Israel and the inactions of the US and UK giving Muslims an axe to grind...and we got Reaganomics.
     
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